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Did the Patriarchs Really Live to Be 900 Years Old? Perhaps, but Here’s Why We Do Not;
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 08-11-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 08/12/2015 7:23:42 AM PDT by Salvation

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An interesting topic to ponder.
1 posted on 08/12/2015 7:23:42 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 08/12/2015 7:25:48 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I wouldn’t call it a mystery, especially considering they most likely had superior genes. And that of course undermines the notion of any “master race” based on genetics.


3 posted on 08/12/2015 7:26:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Salvation

One of God’s fun mysteries.


4 posted on 08/12/2015 7:28:20 AM PDT by exnavy (Common sense seems to be uncommon these days.)
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To: Salvation

I picked up a book called “The Biblical Flood and the Ice Epoch” back in the early 80’s that exposed me to some interesting parts of genesis.

It strongly suggests that before the great flood there was no such thing as direct sunlight, rain, starry nights, etc. and there was almost certainly a MUCH thicker ozone layer. But we came into close proximity to another planet for a while and, well, the great flood, mountain ranges created (thanks to magma tides), ice dumped on our poles, etc. The continental shelves used to be dry land. There were no mountain ranges, etc.


5 posted on 08/12/2015 7:28:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Olog-hai

What about the “sin” part of his article?


6 posted on 08/12/2015 7:29:29 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Perfect genetics, and I mean absolutely PERFECT genetics, were present in Adam and Eve, who were essentially male and female “clones”.

As the generations went by within the framework of a cursed/fallen world, our genes began to “drift” and the only reason we maintain even a semblance of 3 score and 10 or 4 score is our modern medicines.


7 posted on 08/12/2015 7:30:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Salvation
Ice canopy around the Earth. God set air to separate the waters from the waters. This explains dinosaurs too. They were just lizards that lived a long time because of the earths favorable conditions. The canopy broke which flooded the earth. People started living shorter lives after the flood. The Hovind Theory.
8 posted on 08/12/2015 7:30:25 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: cuban leaf

That sounds like an extremely interesting book.


9 posted on 08/12/2015 7:31:05 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Interesting. I never gave it much thought. I just took it at face value. I can see the argument that they would not have had the concept of time like we do. They would know days and months and seasons and a yearly cycle, but did they write down how many calendar years and say “happy ### birthday”? Anyway, I just consider the bible to be the word of God and NOTHING in it is an error.


10 posted on 08/12/2015 7:31:24 AM PDT by wattsgnu
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To: Salvation

“Prior to the flood, lifespans remained in the vicinity of 900 years, but right afterward they dropped ...”

That there’s your answer. The water canopy collapsed (and the waters from the deep erupted), which radically changed the environment, and also left humans more exposed to solar stuff ...


11 posted on 08/12/2015 7:31:37 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Salvation

Earth was spinning a lot faster.


12 posted on 08/12/2015 7:32:57 AM PDT by CharleysPride (non chiedere cio che non si puo prendere -- Charlie Daniels)
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To: Salvation
Dr. Huge Ross has written on this subject. I will add that people did live longer in the time before Noah and proof is biblical diets. The biblical diets of old were more conducive to longer lives.

We also know that aging is biological helped by environmental toxins, Solar radiation and Cosmic Radiation. In short, we know of a supernova that occurred around the time of Noah that increased the amount of cosmic radiation in our solar system. This continues today.

13 posted on 08/12/2015 7:33:07 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: Salvation
I don't believe it is a literal age of one human but more of a way of describing the age of a family or clan and its influence.
14 posted on 08/12/2015 7:33:46 AM PDT by JPG (What's the difference between the Rats and the GOPe? Nothing.)
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To: Salvation

“So how or even whether the patriarchs lived past 900 is not clear.”

Though he personally seems to believe they lived really long lives, he allows for doubt. And what he doubts is the veracity of the Bible itself.

Doubt as to the literal truth of Genesis is one of the main drivers of apostasy in our day.


15 posted on 08/12/2015 7:33:51 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: demshateGod

Never thought of it this way.

But it makes sense....the extremes of temperature in the summer and the low temps of winter do take a toll on some people.

I am one who does not like it to go above 80 degrees in the summer. Sadly that hasn’t been the case in Oregon this year. (89 or 90 today)


16 posted on 08/12/2015 7:35:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

They probably lived to be 80. Don’t take the Bible literally.


17 posted on 08/12/2015 7:35:12 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: .45 Long Colt

Logically in a different world before the flood it could be true.
Maybe the sun is what limits our lifespan and maybe before the great flood the sky was more covered in vapor and the whole thing made lifespans longer.

Could have been, I wasn’t there.


18 posted on 08/12/2015 7:36:21 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women)
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To: Theo
That there’s your answer. The water canopy collapsed (and the waters from the deep erupted), which radically changed the environment, and also left humans more exposed to solar stuff ...

I have been saying this for years when asked to explain lifespans pre-flood and post-flood.

It may also have helped to screw up the gene pool and made begatting amongst close family members verboten.

19 posted on 08/12/2015 7:36:33 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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The Bible clearly states that the Patriarchs lived those numbers of years. And Msgr. Pope "can't prove it."

Because as we all "know," the testimony of G-d Himself isn't good enough for Catholics (or Orthodox).

20 posted on 08/12/2015 7:38:43 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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