Posted on 08/04/2015 7:45:01 AM PDT by marshmallow
Vitus Huonder, the controversial Catholic bishop of Chur in eastern Switzerland, has once again attracted criticism for quoting homophobic Bible passages and denouncing non-traditional family models.
At the “Joy in Faith” forum in the German city of Fulda, he quoted a passage from the Bible which said homosexuals should be punished by death.
In his 50-minute address on Friday, titled “Marriage – a gift, sacrament and order”, Huonder quoted various passages backing up his views. He also slammed gender theory, divorce, sex education and gay marriage.
Regarding homosexuality, the 73-year-old bishop quoted two verses from the book of Leviticus, including Leviticus 20:13: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”
In response to applause, he continued: “Both of these passages alone suffice to clarify unambiguously the church’s position on homosexuality”.
In his opinion, the passages also had implications for the definition of marriage and the family. “There is no diversity when it comes to marriage and family models, although a book has just come out in my bishopric called ‘Family Diversity’,” he said. “Even speaking of family diversity is an attack on the Creator.”
The book he is referring to is “Family Diversity in the Catholic Church” by Hanspeter Schmitt, a professor at the Chur University of Theology, and Arnd Bünker from the socio-pastoral institute in St Gallen. The book addresses church teachings on the issue of family.
‘Gaffe’
Swiss gay organisation Pink Cross said it was “shocked and angry” by Huonder’s comments, calling for a “public apology for the latest gaffe”.
Pink Cross said it was looking into how such hate speech could be prosecuted, pointing out that representatives of the church do not live in.......
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So the bishop quoted from the Old Testament the Jewish bible. Christians Jews and Muzzys start with that bible. He did not suggest that anyone kill homos. Just quoting to show the seriousness of the sin.
Let’s get it right!
These are NOT “homophobic Bible passages”
They are “homotedeatic”!
(disgust, not fear)
criticism for quoting homophobic Bible passages
HUH? Since when is the Word of God anything but the TRUTH?
This is what our world is coming to. Speaking the truth is shortly going to become an actual crime.......... You can wait for it or you can stand up against it............
Long book title. Should consider shortening it to something like "All in the Family."
These are actually homo-loving scriptures. God’s Word is warning homosexuals that there is a price to pay for ungodliness in this life, and the life to come. If they heed his warning, they can be saved, for there are things worse than death.
yep...thoughtcrime! 1984...not long before thinkpol knocks at our doors.
Personally, I think that one should stick to the NT passages when condemning homosexual behavior Biblically. Otherwise you have to deal with the “Oh, so you also believe we cant eat shellfish or wear two types of thread in our clothes. And you believe children should be executed for disrespecting t heir parents.” And all the other elements of the OT law which no longer apply. Stick with the NT passages and you can respond to this merely by saying those OT provisions only applied to OT Jews under the covenant of Moses.
Looks like we're gonna haveta outlaw that Bible.
The "holy qur'an," meanwhile, gets a pass. As a "non-western" religion, it is considered an ally in the war on "western civilization."
And by the way--the Laws of G-d are universal and do not belong to any single "civilization."
That only works to a certain extent. Sooner or later we must delve into the OT to get our definitions for terms that aren’t concretely defined in the NT. Such as “abominable” in Rev. 21:8. The Greek “bdelusso” means “stinking, disgusting, detestable, abhorrent, abominable.” There are a number of behaviors that were identified as “abominable” in the OT, but there’s only a handful of “abominable” behaviors that are damned in both OT and NT. See 1 Cor. 6:9-10.
But Rev. 22:15, the parallel verse to Rev. 21:8, leaves no doubt that unrepentant homosexuals are the ones being damned in both places. “Fearful” and “unbelieving” are no-brainers. The remaining behaviors are identical except for “abominable” in Rev. 21:8 and “dogs” in Rev. 22:15. So this is an “abominable” behavior where the practitioners are derogatorily called “dogs” by the Holy Spirit. In the Greek, “dogs” (kuon) just means “dogs,” so it’s no help. But the NT was likely spoken in Aramaic, closely related to Hebrew, and in Hebrew the mystery is solved. In Hebrew, “dogs” (keleb) is a euphemism for “male prostitute.” Homosexuals, in other words, are the “abominable dogs” the Holy Spirit is damning. Unless they repent.
Thanks for that study!
You shouldn't just limit any argument to one part of God's Word over others. There is richness throughout. If you understand the difference between the Law of God and the Law of Moses (Deuteronomy), those challenges you cite are easy to handle.
What the passages on homosexuality tell us, though, apart from the Law is the mind of God... God hates that. Good enough for me.
Far too many people think that the old testament ended when the new testament began.....it didn’t.
And the righteous “stranger” who as long as he respected the Hebrew customs was to be protected by that community.
Exodus XXII:20 “...for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.”
I Googled homotedeatic, and Google can’t find the word. What does it mean: disgust with homosexuals?
The exact response I get from idiots on the Internet.
Yes, and if I was presenting a class on Christian theology to Christian believers I would thoroughly cover all that. But I am talking about apologetic witness to casual Christians and skeptical outsiders. They are not going to hang on for a long involved dissertation in this regard. But they will be swayed by the "so, are you saying we can't eat shellfish either" argument. Sticking to NT prohibitions helps avoid going down that rabbit trail immensely.
Sorry...spelling
taedetic
>https://glosbe.com/la/en/taedet<
taedia = accusative plural of taedium
taedium = disgust, loathing
You won’t find it because its Latin and I was the one who formed the term
Homotaedetic
Because “phobia” is an irrational fear and does not describe my attitude at all.
So, I searched for the Latin term for disgust.
Now when you google the term it will pull up this post.
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