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To: bramps

The Commissioning of Peter and the Commissioning of all the Apostles, the first Bishops.

Remember, Jesus breathed on them (Holy Spirit), saying, “Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven them, whose sins you bind will be held bound.”


17 posted on 07/21/2015 5:24:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

The article specifically says these are Christ’s teachings? Please, very simple question. (don’t you just wish politicians would give simple answers to simple questions? ...so don’t be a politician. Back up your post)

Where does Jesus teach anything about mortal sin as opposed to other sin? You posted it, not me. Please back it up or don’t post it in the first place (or at least that would be my take on anything I posted from the Bible. I’d be ready to give the exact verse from where it came. Can you do that?)


22 posted on 07/21/2015 5:32:37 PM PDT by bramps (Wake me up when we find a candidate to take on the scourge that is Islam.)
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To: Salvation

Nice, Salvation, that is a beautiful passage! You also hit 2 birds with one stone, Apostolic Succession and Sacrament of Penance.

Score: Catholics 1, Biblicists 0.


82 posted on 07/21/2015 6:17:41 PM PDT by 2tipsea (What can I say?)
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To: Salvation
Remember, Jesus breathed on them (Holy Spirit), saying, “Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven them, whose sins you bind will be held bound.”

Jesus breathes on all of us who receive the Holy Ghost...

111 posted on 07/21/2015 6:34:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Salvation
...”Jesus breathed on them (Holy Spirit), saying, “Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven them, whose sins you bind will be held bound.”....

Do notice that the text nowhere says they received the Holy Spirit then. At most, Jesus tells them to. when we put aside our doctrinal biases and simply let Scripture interpret Scripture, we discover that the Apostles did not receive the Holy Spirit at this point in time rather they received the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.

As is written..."He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified." (John 7:39) And again here...."But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but... "if I go, I will send Him to you."(John 16:7)

And even here when gathering them together, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem but to wait for what the Father had promised,..... "Which," He said,.... "you heard of from Me; .... for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now... but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth." (Acts 1:4-5,8)

Therfore His breathing on them was not a giving of the Holy Spirit but 'a symbol of that promise', so, too, is the 'authority' Jesus gives them 'not given' until Pentecost since that authority requires the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.......

The context simply is not what was happening at that moment, but what would happen at Pentecost, when the Apostles would be given that which was required to powerfully proclaim the gospel to all nations, beginning in Jerusalem.

139 posted on 07/21/2015 6:49:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: Salvation; ADSUM; Arthur McGowan
Remember, Jesus breathed on them (Holy Spirit), saying, “Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven them, whose sins you bind will be held bound.”

See 259 . Besides there being absolutely zero Cath priests in the NT, Scripture teaches that the binding/loosing of sins pertains to judicial judgments, which the OT magisterium also engaged in. (Dt. 17:8-13) And which the often-invoked Mt. 18:15-17 pertains to, but the church corporate is to be involved, as seen applied in 1Co. 5, in which Paul leads the whole church in delivering a man to the devil for restorative chastisement. And latter exhorts the church to forgive the man, which action Paul concurs with as in the person of Christ. (2Cor. 5:7-11)

This binding is also declarative in Acts 5 and 8, resulting in Divine judgment or the threat thereof. In the latter case we see Peter telling Simon to pray himself that he be forgiven, while the latter asks prayer for him, which is met by silence in the narrative.

God can also have regard to the intercession of other believers for those being chastened for sin, likely including sins one is ignorant of, and which intercession primarily is to be expected of the presbuteros (senior/elder) office, as James 5:14,15 teaches.

However, besides judicial judgments, Mt. 18:18-20 and James 5:16-20 teach that spiritual binding and loosing also is provided for all believers of righteous faith as exampled by Elijah, who bound the heavens for 3.5 years and then loosed them (now there is a solution for sppsd Climate Change!).

And which calls for confession of faults to each other in general and communal prayer for them. And which ministry of all believers includes canceling a multitude of sin due to turning one to repentance.

330 posted on 07/22/2015 4:46:38 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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