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What Would Jesus Say About Homosexual Sex?
Traditional Catholic Priest ^ | July 5, 2015

Posted on 07/06/2015 7:37:24 AM PDT by NYer

This whole perversion of the Word of God began when Luther said each person should interpret the Bible for themselves.  This has led to so called’ christians’ condoning and accepting homosexual sex and ‘marriage’.  Luther is ‘turning in his grave’.  He said that ‘having sex without having children was the sin of sodomy too.’

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This slippery slide where christians accepting this perversion began with the condoning of divorce.  It was well brought out when CNN asked Donald Trump what he believed about homosexual ‘marriage’.  Trump responded by saying he is in favor of ‘traditional marriage’.  They then called him on having married 3 times.

So here it is.  King Henry the VIII made his own church, ‘The Church of England’ so that he could get around what Jesus said; ‘What God has united, let no man divide” and kill two of his wives and remarry four more times.   He modified his christianity to suite his sexual desires.  He then went on to steal Catholic property, killed thousands and caused years of persecution and starvation of Catholics in England and Ireland.

Then Margaret Sanger paid Episcopalian preachers to condone Eugenics and the use of birth control.

Then came the condoning of murdering the babies in the womb.  Many ‘christian’ churches have gone along with this evil and have called it good.

Now we have the same with homosexual sin.  More and more of the christian churches are supporting the sinful lifestyle of homosexuality and justifying it with perverted theology.

Homosexuality-society-5On July 1st 2015, in Salt Lake City, the Episcopal Church “voted overwhelmingly to approve two resolutions that effectively codify theological support for same-sex marriage. The first (A054) formally approves gender-neutral and same-sex marriage ceremonies, while the second (A036) changes the current marriage “canons” to allow clergy to officiate same-sex marriages using either a marriage rite from the Episcopal Book of Common Prayer or a “trial” liturgy.

..the resolution actually includes what amounts to a “conscience clause” for bishops and priests who disapprove of same-sex marriage to opt-out of performing unions, although they are required to accommodate couples in some way in every diocese.

“This is a definitive step for the Episcopal church,” Baker said. “To have this vote pass so soon after the Supreme Court decision…It was just breathtaking.”

“God has clearly been at work in the culture and in the church, changing the hearts and minds of Episcopalians,” he added.  ThinkProgress.com

This week the Presbyterian Church of American also voted to ‘embrace an inclusive definition of marriage‘.

‘The measure sought to replace a phrase in the church’s constitution that defined marriage as “a civil contract between a woman and a man” with a sentence reading “marriage involves a unique commitment between two people, traditionally a man and a woman, to love and support each other for the rest of their lives.”

A Presbyterian McNeil said; “We rejoice that all couples can now see those relationships solemnized before God and the Christian community in marriage, at the discretion of ministers and sessions,    there is still more work to be done to ensure that the church guarantees LGBT people equal rights — and theological standing — across the board.’

Carmen Fowler LeBorge, also a Presbyterian, disagreed with the change.  She said that “Any prophetic voice that the denomination may have once had to speak truth and call people to repentance is now lost. All she can do now is echo the voices of the world for she has abandoned the clarion call to bear faithful witness to the God who has clearly spoken on this matter.”

For the Presbyterian ministers there is also a conscience clause.  They do not have to ‘officiate same-sex unions, and pastors can individually decline to perform a marriage — just as they can with any straight couple.’  ThinkProgress.com

Homosexuality-society-ranking-02A large Evangelical Christian Church in San Francisco, (City Church), just sent out a letter where they will not longer require celibacy for homosexual members.  “Imagine feeling this from your family or religious community, ‘If you stay, you must accept celibacy with no hope that you too might one day enjoy the fullness of intellectual, spiritual, emotional, psychological and physical companionship. If you pursue a lifelong partnership, you are rejected.’ This is simply not working and people are being hurt. We must listen and respond.”   religiousnewsservice.com

A New York Mega Church pastor Lentz, when asked in an interview with CNN if he every talks about homosexuality.  “Yes, it’s a misquote because I do discuss it, just not the way people want me to, When it comes to homosexuality, I refuse to let another human being or a media moment dictate how we approach it. Jesus was in the thick of an era where homosexuality, just like it is today, was widely prevalent. And I’m still waiting for someone to show me the quote were Jesus addressed it on the record in front of people. You won’t find it because he never did.”  

I guess this minister never read Matthew 15:19, ‘For from the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies.’   Fornication means any sexual activity outside of marriage, (masterbation, premarital sex, homosexual sex).  

‘The couple shared that gay men and women were welcomed at Hillsong NYC, with Lentz stating, “We have a lot of gay men and women in our church and I pray we always do.”

Mrs. Lentz added, “It’s not our place to tell anyone how they should live, it’s – that’s their journey.”  christianpost.news

We are so blessed to be traditional Catholics and to believe in the complete Holy Bible.  We have read where God calls homosexual sex an abomination and who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.


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1 posted on 07/06/2015 7:37:24 AM PDT by NYer
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Romans 1:26-28, ping!


2 posted on 07/06/2015 7:38:02 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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“Your sins are forgiven. Go and sin no more.”

I am certain he did meet, and say that to, many homosexuals during His time on earth.


3 posted on 07/06/2015 7:39:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Mrs. Lentz added, “It’s not our place to tell anyone how they should live, it’s – that’s their journey.”

$10 says she does it almost every service.
“We need to reduce our carbon footprint”
“We need to help the homeless”
“we need to feed the hungry”
Etc


4 posted on 07/06/2015 7:42:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: NYer

The first sentence is incorrect. The first perversion of God’s word was the serpent in the Garden of Eden. Well before Luther, it was perverted by members of the Catholic an Jewish hierarchies. Bringing up the idea that the Scriptures were intended for the common man did not bring us to this state.


5 posted on 07/06/2015 7:44:41 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: NYer

Ewww?


6 posted on 07/06/2015 7:45:50 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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"Mrs. Lentz added, “It’s not our place to tell anyone how they should live, it’s – that’s their journey.”

Yet the entire message of the bible, from beginning to end, is how we should live. The consequences for ignoring these precepts is quite extreme.

8 posted on 07/06/2015 7:46:14 AM PDT by circlecity
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Wow!

Rome ordains homosexual priests and Protestants are called out over the gay issue?!?

What hutzpah!


9 posted on 07/06/2015 7:47:00 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: NYer

Wait, ,, I know. He’d ask if they’d ever heard of Sodom.


10 posted on 07/06/2015 7:47:08 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: NYer

Bkmrk.


11 posted on 07/06/2015 7:49:43 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: AppyPappy

Mrs. Lentz added, “It’s not our place to tell anyone how they should live, it’s – that’s their journey.”

$10 says she does it almost every service.
“We need to reduce our carbon footprint”
“We need to help the homeless”
“we need to feed the hungry”
Etc


Liberals are pro choice on abortion and libertarian about homosexuality. But in just about every other area of life, liberals are opinionated, and seek to impose those opinions on all of us.

Liberals have very selective criteria when it comes to areas of life where people should make their own decisions vs. areas of life where they want to impose their views of how society and government should function.


12 posted on 07/06/2015 7:51:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Ingtar

Hierarchies? :) That’s an irony zinger.


13 posted on 07/06/2015 7:51:15 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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I knew this author wasn't worth reading when he started with: This whole perversion of the Word of God began when Luther said each person should interpret the Bible for themselves.

What Luther said was:

Luther said, "a simple layman armed with Scripture is greater than the mightiest pope without it".

14 posted on 07/06/2015 7:51:54 AM PDT by Raycpa
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“This whole perversion of the Word of God began when Luther said each person should interpret the Bible for themselves. “

Yes because only a Priest led by the Global Warming activist known as the Pope is qualified to tell us what the Bible means.

We should go back to the time when the Catholic Church prohibited people from even having a bible in a language they could understand.

It certainly couldn’t be the decades of silence on such issues as abortion, divorce, homosexuality, promiscuity, adultery, foul language or the multitude of other sinful behavior.


15 posted on 07/06/2015 7:52:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ingtar

Good point. As one Catholic FReeper loves to quote, “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant”. Actually, to be deep in history is to realize that every dead religion springs from THE Lie whispered in Eden: YOU SHALL BE AS GOD, KNOWING GOOD AND EVIL.


16 posted on 07/06/2015 7:52:32 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: MarineBrat

The Jewish religion at the time of Christ had a hierarchy, as does the Catholic Church. I am not sure why that is ironic.


17 posted on 07/06/2015 7:53:03 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: NYer

To those that claim divorce is always unacceptable and condemn me as one who has participated in bringing down Christianity, please explain Matthew 19:9. I fall under the exception Jesus spoke of there.


18 posted on 07/06/2015 7:53:11 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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This whole perversion of the Word of God began when Luther said each person should interpret the Bible for themselves. This has led to so called’ christians’ condoning and accepting homosexual sex and ‘marriage’.

At first I thought this might not be another Protestant-bashing thread (because of the charts that show Catholics adopting game marraiage in numbers higher than evangelicals), and then I was sure it was a bashing thread when I came to the following section of the article, complete with typos and errors:

This week the Presbyterian Church of American also voted to ‘embrace an inclusive definition of marriage‘.

‘The measure sought to replace a phrase in the church’s constitution that defined marriage as “a civil contract between a woman and a man” with a sentence reading “marriage involves a unique commitment between two people, traditionally a man and a woman, to love and support each other for the rest of their lives.”

Whatever the heck a "Presbyterian Church in American" is, the denomination that made the vote was the Presbyterian Church (USA).
19 posted on 07/06/2015 7:53:11 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: NYer
This whole perversion of the Word of God began when Luther said each person should interpret the Bible for themselves.

What's to interpret? Simply read it, believe it, and do it.

Or face the punishment.
20 posted on 07/06/2015 7:53:37 AM PDT by LearsFool (Real men get their wives and children to heaven.)
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