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Six arrested at Houston's Lakewood Church after heckling senior pastor Joel Osteen
Christian Exam ^ | Jun 29, 2015 | Kimberly Pennington

Posted on 06/29/2015 6:39:59 PM PDT by Gamecock

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1 posted on 06/29/2015 6:39:59 PM PDT by Gamecock
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By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Worvan, I was not within 200 miles of Osteen when this happened.

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2 posted on 06/29/2015 6:45:07 PM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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Members of The Church of Wells [the alleged hecklers] -- described by some as reformed with puritanical leanings -- have been involved in various disputes with police and have been accused by some family members of "brainwashing" vulnerable young adults. While some maintain it has the markings of a cult, others have said its leaders are young and "misguided."

I wonder who the "some" are?

3 posted on 06/29/2015 6:49:24 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Gamecock

A. I STILL love that gif; it NEVER fails to bring a smile. ;)

B. Gaystapo pestering him?


4 posted on 06/29/2015 6:49:27 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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5 posted on 06/29/2015 6:49:40 PM PDT by South40 ("I probably identify more as a democRAT" ~Donald Trump)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No, they were actual real Christians who were calling him out for his prosperity gospel and Tony Perkins style preaching.


6 posted on 06/29/2015 6:52:47 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: LukeL

Tony Robbins. My mistake.


7 posted on 06/29/2015 6:53:28 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: LukeL

Don’t get me wrong - I am loathe to support these Mega Churches. My sister belongs to one and it’s totally nutty.

Have you ever read, ‘One More Sunday’ by John D. MacDonald?

A very good read.

Heck, read ALL of his novels...and thank me later. :)


8 posted on 06/29/2015 7:00:08 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: LukeL

LOL! That was Day and Night bad.

Chuckle.


9 posted on 06/29/2015 7:05:23 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Any Senator who votes for TPA is disqualified to be President - Donald Trump)
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To: Gamecock

I am not a Joel Olsteen fan, but this type of disruptive behavior in someone else’s worship service is not Christ-like. What goes around, comes around and it is going to be ugly enough for the church without Christians doing this kind of thing.

Jesus threw out the money changers on the Temple grounds because the area they doing “business” in was supposed to be a place of prayer for Gentiles who wanted to worship God (it was the only area near the Temple that Gentiles could have access to.

What these people were doing was criminal trespass.


10 posted on 06/29/2015 7:07:06 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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The Church of Wells has the reputation around here as a cult. Think Westboro Baptist Church.


11 posted on 06/29/2015 7:16:07 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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So if someone is preaching a heresy like the prosperity gospel, we should just let them? Osteen is leading many people to the gates of hell with the idea that since God loves all he will forgive all. When has he preached repent from your sin and turn from your wicked ways and nail those sins to the cross?


12 posted on 06/29/2015 7:24:33 PM PDT by LukeL
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Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple.

John 2:13-16

13The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

14And He found in the temple those who were selling oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers seated at their tables.

15And He made a scourge of cords, and drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen; and He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables;

16and to those who were selling the doves He said, "Take these things away; stop making My Father's house a place of business."


13 posted on 06/29/2015 7:36:18 PM PDT by Rodamala
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Pretty much, yep. No one is forcing the people to attend or watch him on TV. The same way you don’t run into Jewish temples or muslim mosques and disrupt a service. This stunt didn’t win anyone over to their side and even if it happened every Sunday wouldn’t stop Osteen from preaching what he preaches.


14 posted on 06/29/2015 7:49:28 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Nah, he is harmless to them.


15 posted on 06/29/2015 7:53:59 PM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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“No, they were actual real Christians who were calling him out for his prosperity gospel and Tony Perkins style preaching.”

If you look them up, you’ll see that they sound like a cult.


16 posted on 06/29/2015 7:55:03 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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I don’t care for Osteen myself but we are descended into chaos now.

Truly descended into chaos.


17 posted on 06/29/2015 8:03:50 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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**Jesus threw out the money changers on the Temple grounds because the area they doing “business”**

Maybe they were in the bookstore?


18 posted on 06/29/2015 8:11:47 PM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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Re: “So if someone is preaching a heresy like the prosperity gospel, we should just let them?”

If someone is preaching doctrine that is heretical to Biblical teaching in your church or my church or on the street corner or in a public forum, then yes, absolutely it must be confronted. That is not what happened here. This was in a church (what kind I do not know) that apparantly invited Mr Olsteen to speak during their worship service - that is not the appropriate time to or place to confront him - unless you are the pastor or member of that particular church.

There are religious groups that meet all the time whose doctrine is heretical according to Biblical teaching (Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Science, Unitarian, etc.) - but it is on their property and I have no business or legal right to trespass on their turf and disrupt their services. And, again, what goes around, comes around.

There is a time and a place for vigorous debate but not during someone else’s worship service. Religious freedom is not a one-way street. If you want the freedom to worship God as you see fit, you must allow even those you disagree with the same freedom - especially on their own property.


19 posted on 06/29/2015 8:50:15 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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No— Tony Perkins might be right-— “Psycho”.

Know what you mean— we call the “services” shows, because the people sing and jump around with “Garth Brooks” headphone microphones on.

Has nothing to do with redemption or scripture— it’s about money.


20 posted on 06/29/2015 9:04:15 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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