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Good news about the new encyclical Laudato si’ – #PopeForPlanet
WDTPRS ^ | June 18, 2015 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 06/18/2015 4:23:06 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Army Air Corps

I hear what you are saying, and agree with you.


41 posted on 06/19/2015 4:31:30 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: icwhatudo
How far we have sunk when the Pope saying “you should not kill babies” and “God created the world” are now seen as examples of “Good News”.

Lol! But didn't this Pope say that "G-d is not a magician who can do anything?"

42 posted on 06/19/2015 4:56:56 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: NYer
What the Stream piece does is emphasize the letter’s strengths. That’s important for you to know. Perhaps you might want to your look at the encyclical by reading the paragraphs the Stream piece provides before moving to a reading of the whole thing… if you bother with that. I’m not saying that you should, by they way.

Does it strike anyone else as odd that the author, a priest, is essentially discounting the need to read the whole of the Pope's letter in order to point out the areas where it isn't wrong? Leavening a bowl of crap stew with high-quality herbs doesn't improve the flavor.

43 posted on 06/19/2015 5:03:01 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: MortMan
Does it strike anyone else as odd that the author, a priest, is essentially discounting the need to read the whole of the Pope's letter in order to point out the areas where it isn't wrong? Leavening a bowl of crap stew with high-quality herbs doesn't improve the flavor.

Duuuuuude!

44 posted on 06/19/2015 5:05:05 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: oblomov

Nice ad hominem. How unchristian of you.


45 posted on 06/19/2015 5:09:48 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: MortMan

Where is the ad hominem? It was my summary of the article.


46 posted on 06/19/2015 5:55:43 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: MortMan
Does it strike anyone else as odd that the author, a priest, is essentially discounting the need to read the whole of the Pope's letter in order to point out the areas where it isn't wrong? Leavening a bowl of crap stew with high-quality herbs doesn't improve the flavor.

That was precisely my point.

47 posted on 06/19/2015 5:57:36 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

I have to apologize. I completely missed your “Cliff Notes” first line in the comment you posted, and thought your “completely unhinged” comment was aimed from you at anyone who disagreed.

Mea culpa.

(I am not an idiot, but sometimes I play one on the internet...)


48 posted on 06/19/2015 6:10:47 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: NYer

192 pages on the environment.

Meanwhile, according to Francis, we are obsessed with abortion.

Does.not.compute.


49 posted on 06/19/2015 6:32:34 AM PDT by piusv
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To: NYer
There are good things in it. Yes, there are bad things in it too.

Darn tootin. That's what Modernists do: include heresy with orthodoxy.

50 posted on 06/19/2015 8:43:32 AM PDT by piusv
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To: MDLION; CynicalBear; metmom
...."the Globalists aren’t crazy about this passage".....

It makes no difference whatsoever to the Godless Globalists what vocabulary the Pope uses, or scriptures he quotes to advance the Global Agenda and make it appealing to the catholic masses, as long as he positions them into place....which is exactly what he's doing and what they want.

It's certainly no secret that 'religion' throughout history has always been 'used by the powerful' as a mechanism 'to control society'... Buzz words like collectivism, unification, diversity, multiculturalism is the best form of social control 'under the banner of religion',...this with the desired result for the 'neutralization' of Christians and other religions to comply with the 'Global Government changes' under a NEW AGE Religion based on promoting false environmental issues, and to stop the public them from taking action to resist those 'changes'.

The Global Leaders have long viewed a rising population as a threat to their dominance. They also have understood and realized that eventually a large number of people will inevitably overthrow and remove them from power.....therefore important for us to recognize Globalissts are particularly concerned 'with the middle class' because they have the intelligence and capacity to organize...... Thus we have the attacks today against the middle class..... By destroying the middle class they then will have 'a public equally poor' and thus incapable of rebelling.

The Pope is worse then a Fool....his appeal to help the poor will do just the opposite as he continues to sleep with the Globalist leadership and seek their approval.

As his own words attest....he seeks Globalist Solutions.


51 posted on 06/19/2015 9:54:16 AM PDT by caww
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To: Sacajaweau

Did you read it?

Do you really know what an encyclical is?

Definition was posted on several threads yesterday.


52 posted on 06/19/2015 10:10:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: dp0622

One of the points of the encyclical is:

Overpopulation is not the problem


53 posted on 06/19/2015 10:11:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
This is the first encyclical since the beginning of the church on the environment.

What's your point?

54 posted on 06/19/2015 10:35:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: caww
>>As his own words attest....he seeks Globalist Solutions.<<

And global governance. The last days false prophet.

55 posted on 06/19/2015 10:44:17 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Army Air Corps
The problem isn't poverty...the problem is the country leaders who create their citizen's poverty to escalate. There will always be the poor to some extent....but as we see in third world countries...no matter how much re-distribution of wealth that's thrown their way the country's leadership absorbs most of it...and the cycle continues....Africa... Haiti and others evidence such. Haiti and Africa are so accustomed to their poverty and taking handouts from the World that they have never had to rise themselves above their condition...because like spoiled children they know the world will bail them out once again.
56 posted on 06/19/2015 10:58:13 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Indeed. There is what you describe coupled with “leaders” in Third World countries who enjoy being in control of the aid as well as maintaining a tight grip on their nation’s resources so as to control the people. Sickies.


57 posted on 06/19/2015 11:08:39 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: CynicalBear

“The last days false prophet”

The False Prophet, the Anti- Christ’s pal, will condemn abortion, birth control, gender theory, gay marriage, fornication, embryo destruction, gossip (sins of the tongue), and on and on?

I don’t buy it. The Anti- Christ and the False Prophet are about turning everything upside down, making wrong right and right wrong.


58 posted on 06/19/2015 11:58:26 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: MDLION
>>The Anti- Christ and the False Prophet are about turning everything upside down, making wrong right and right wrong.<<

Not until they have everyone under their control. They will first deceive many into following them. And yes they will have to begin by lying about abortion etc.

59 posted on 06/19/2015 12:14:26 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: caww

“false environmental issues”

Environmental issues aren’t false. In some cities in China the pollution and smog are so thick that the people walk around wearing dust masks. Respiratory illnesses, cancers, and disabilities and deaths resulting from such are spiking in these cities. The Pope isn’t addressing just the 6% of Catholics in the United States, but the entire world. And in some places the powerless are exploited. Where I work, there are nearby smoke stacks. I wouldn’t want to live in the neighborhood.


60 posted on 06/19/2015 12:32:39 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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