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Good news about the new encyclical Laudato si’ – #PopeForPlanet
WDTPRS ^ | June 18, 2015 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 06/18/2015 4:23:06 PM PDT by NYer

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** Papal encyclicals are generally fairly long documents containing a variety of points about one or more issues. Some or all of these points are often about things that are beyond the scope of papal infallibility, dealing with things other than faith or morals, or being directed to some segment of the church. Traditionally, encyclicals are circular letters addressed only to the bishops of the Church. They tend to be discussions of some pressing matter at hand.**

http://www.rosarychurch.net/answers/qa011996b.html

From a Vatican website.


21 posted on 06/18/2015 5:43:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Army Air Corps

Not picking on you, but there is a whole world out there, that isn’t the US.

Real, and I mean real, poverty exists in China, India, Bangladesh, Africa, etc. There are some real SOBs out there, namely Chinese, who are raping and pillaging not only their own environment, but also natural resource rich Africa, etc.

There are little kids who pick apart motherboards and other computer parts to melt them down for silver. Of course, the application of sustained heat creates noxious gases the kids breath in. And the list goes on and on.

Look at what the USSR and China did to their farmland, as well as to other parts of their countries. Look at the Caspian Sea, or what’s left of it.

Is the global warming stuff a bunch of nonsense? Sure, but not everything written is about us.


22 posted on 06/18/2015 5:44:08 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: Alex Murphy

It’s rather typical of how they have developed throughout history isn’t it. Keep enough “good stuff” to keep the faithful happy but slowly evolve into a world control institution. Satan is sly for sure.


23 posted on 06/18/2015 5:45:17 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: NYer

Good article by Fr. Z

**Overpopulation is not the problem:**

I bet this fact is not getting mentioned in the lamestream media.


24 posted on 06/18/2015 5:45:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

The Vatican website here was an error. Sorry


25 posted on 06/18/2015 5:47:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

:I think the Pope needs a new staff.”

I think we need a new pope. This time, one with a brain.


26 posted on 06/18/2015 5:51:31 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NYer

Nice article! I’m looking forward to reading and checking out the references- thank you!


27 posted on 06/18/2015 6:24:32 PM PDT by Grateful2God ( + Jesus cried.....Eli, Eli, lamma sabacthani? ...My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me? +)
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To: SpirituTuo

Yes, I know that there is real poverty out there. I have seen third world poverty. The thing is, this encyclical WILL be used as a cudgel by those in positions of power to hammer at developed nations while turning a blind eye to the filth and grinding poverty of developing nations. This is already being used as a tool by the Left here and abroad.


28 posted on 06/18/2015 6:25:43 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Cliff Notes version:

Just read the good parts, like where he reminds us to talk to people instead of hulking over our mobile phones.

Anyone who dislikes the bad parts is emotionally unhinged. They are having a meltdown, and such people should be consigned to a sanitarium, or least ignored.

The Pope is right, no matter what.


29 posted on 06/18/2015 6:31:25 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Army Air Corps

You mentioned here as well as abroad.

I’m thinking that if we are attacked as they promise — our whole nation will be one of poverty and destruction.

Any thoughts?


30 posted on 06/18/2015 6:32:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Mind-reading is not allowed in forum between FReepers. Mind-reading, and unsubstantiated accusations directed at the Pope aren't too cool either. This is about the encyclical. The idea is to read the document and discuss, not to ass-u-me* to know the Holy Father's motives or accuse him of wanting people to die.

*Nod to Felix Unger!

31 posted on 06/18/2015 6:39:27 PM PDT by Grateful2God ( + Jesus cried.....Eli, Eli, lamma sabacthani? ...My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me? +)
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To: Salvation

Poverty and destruction suits the Left just fine so long as they can rule the ruins. Look at Latin America. So many countries that are blessed with tremendous natural wealth, but various socialist governments and policies keep the vast majority of the citizens in grinding poverty amid poorly developed natural abundance. The socialist oligarchs don’t care because they get to rule over “the masses” and control what little material wealth they have.


32 posted on 06/18/2015 6:45:03 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: CynicalBear; Alex Murphy
It’s rather typical of how they have developed throughout history isn’t it. Keep enough “good stuff” to keep the faithful happy but slowly evolve into a world control institution. Satan is sly for sure.

YEP

33 posted on 06/18/2015 6:50:57 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: oblomov

Nah, there is no hope in the Pope, just in Jesus Christ.


34 posted on 06/18/2015 7:44:26 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Hey! That reminds me of a song.")
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To: NYer

I’m just afraid that by the time you RC’s wake up to the boondoggle your religion has become it will be too late and you will be standing at the Great White Throne Judgement, God Bless.


35 posted on 06/18/2015 8:47:21 PM PDT by mrobisr
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To: Grateful2God
Mind-reading, and unsubstantiated accusations directed at the Pope aren't too cool either.

So the Pope didn't sign off on this? No Vatican endorsement? This encyclical doesn't advance the positions of the Left? The Left won't use this for their purposes and the Pope was naive? LOL

36 posted on 06/18/2015 8:55:55 PM PDT by xone
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To: Bodleian_Girl

I was summarizing the article, not my own viewpoint.


37 posted on 06/19/2015 1:28:48 AM PDT by oblomov
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“We have had enough of immorality and the mockery of ethics, goodness, faith and honesty.” (229)

Sounds like a slap at entertainment, particularly television and movies. I hope people understand how the six words “We have had enough of immorality” will make the Left grind their teeth with their disdain of the word “values” and their constant parroting of “Do not judge”.

“[C]oncern for the protection of nature is also incompatible with the justification of abortion.” (120)

JP2 and B16 also wrote and said this in their own ways.

I’m gonna stick with the thesis I’ve had since shortly after this Pope was elected: The portrayal of him as very liberal is WAY overdone.


38 posted on 06/19/2015 3:26:12 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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“he’s carrying the water for the Globalist agenda”

I’m pretty sure the Globalists aren’t crazy about this passage:

“A spirituality which forgets God as all-powerful and Creator is not acceptable. That is how we end up worshipping earthly powers, or ourselves usurping the place of God” (75)


39 posted on 06/19/2015 3:42:42 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: CynicalBear
It’s rather typical of how they have developed throughout history isn’t it. Keep enough “good stuff” to keep the faithful happy but slowly evolve into a world control institution. Satan is sly for sure.

It would be one thing if that was the case.

But it's even slicker than that. They don't want to be the "world control institution." As a Catholic, I could actually defend that idea (under the thought of trying to re-establish Christendom)

But it is becoming ever more apparent that this is not their goal. It appears as if they want to pull everybody to a different "world control institution." One run by atheists.

It is as if they are acting just like the "useful idiot" leftists that agitated for communism during the days of the USSR: they do so thinking that they will have exalted roles once Soviet Communism took control of the West...when the truth is that they would be the first to be exterminated.

40 posted on 06/19/2015 3:49:49 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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