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IN A MOMENT A SUDDENLY " PENTECOST IS TODAY " [charismatic caucus]
HolySpirit ^ | bible,Jedediah

Posted on 05/21/2015 8:31:55 AM PDT by Jedediah

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To: dangus

The wisemen saw His star..

They were looking for a sign..in His sky. Astronomers not astrologers. Big difference.

Which is what Genesis 1:14says He has those dots in His sky are up there for.
Signs, appointed times (translated as seasons), days and years..

It is the opposite of greco roman pagan astrology.

That is satan’s tool.

Just like Satan has a counterfeit Mary and counterfeit Jesus that the fake Mary points to in her ‘How to pray the rosary’15 promises and instruction book handed out to me when a nice catholic gave me a set of rosary beads.

It was thanks to that instruction booklet that I tested against His Word that I realized everything taught by Rome was a counterfeit because that Mary lied in her first promise for praying the rosary.
And no liar points to truth.
And that liar pointed to Jesus in promise 14.

So what about Jesus did I share with that liar?

The name, December 25, good Friday and easter Sunday..

And amazingly , He led me to test each and every part of that and His Word had an answer of genuine Truth that proved all of Rome’s basics (shared with darn near every Protestant by the way) was counterfeit..

Another Jesus, another gospel, another Mary..
Counterfeits created by Rome.
As a vessel for the enemy.

That is why today isn’t just a Roman holy day. It is a Christian holy day..

I am no longer a christian..but I have become even more of a Protestant.. I met Him as the Roman Jesus and He didn’t let me stay there.

And He didn’t let me hang out in Judaism or Hebrew roots, either.

Completely free..

And it was found in His Word. In His Creation.
And it blows Rome’s story out of the water..

The Word became flesh.. Literally..

And Rome has been a vessel to counterfeit His Truth.
And I never would have seen it if a nice catholic hadnt handed me a rosary bead and instruction booklet that quotes Mary..

I was a protestant who saw no difference with Catholics..then with that booklet, lots of differences.
Now, I am back to that opinion but for all the wrong reasons because of where He led me..

Out of Babylon.

And it is something that I never thought I was in three years ago as a presbyterian..

Roman Catholic church knows Torahs templatr. That is why January 1st is the feast of circumcison , a holy day.

And why February 2nd is the presentation /dedication.

That fits the template.

But not the actual days..
Which is why a counterfeit can only be seen if one studies the genuine..

It is why cashiers hold money up to the light. It is only tested with the Light does one see a phony and counterfeit..


21 posted on 05/24/2015 3:57:53 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Jedediah
May I ask;

ADD (attention deficit disorder)?

Or was it more like; added adventure...?

Please clarify.

1 Corinthians 14:19

yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

For what is coming is a HOLY GALE !

Well ok.

AWOLNATION 'Sail' and Funny Cats

22 posted on 05/24/2015 4:34:06 PM PDT by BlueDragon (please don't let the tornados destroy/take away the house, or just part-way, leaving me stranded...)
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To: delchiante

You’re describing astology, not astonomy. Astronomy has nothing to do with Virgo, or Pisces or anything like that; there is no precedent in Hebrew for any of those constellations, nor the Zodiac. Astronomy simply describes the laws of nature that stars are subject to, and by extension, the nature and composition of celestial objects. Astrology is the practice of observing the location in the stars as a method of supposing events among people.

>> I am no longer a Christian..but I have become even more of a Protestant.. <<

So you’re saying that the spirit of God led you not only out of the Church, but out of Christianity altogether? You’d better stop messing with your pagan astology. That ain’t God leading you.


23 posted on 05/24/2015 9:26:38 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Look up the word Mazzaroth in Job..

And Orion and Pleaides..

It is all in His Word.
You will not see ‘zodiac’ but Mazzaroth is.
See Job 32:31-33..

In the oldest book in the bible there is reference to those ‘clusters’ of stars. He even names them!

He led me out of Babylon. Lots of protestants think Babylon is just the catholic church. You can see it on the forum

Are they in for a surprise.

Thanks to newer translations of Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, the sacred Greco Roman sacred name ‘Jesus’ was substituted with the English name Joshua.
Two scripture witnesses that were not always ‘Joshua’.. My 1599 bible reprint has the name Jesus in those two places.

If translators can substitute the name Jesus with Joshua in two places , they can substitute it in the over 900 other places..

The name Jesus can be shown to be a ‘tradition of man’.

Joshua is already a worthy English translation/transliteration of the Hebrew name.. Proof is that it is used over 200 times in the English language old testaments I have.

And ‘Joshua’,the Son of Yah, wasn’t born on December 25 and wasnt killed on Good Friday and raised on Easter Sunday.those are reserved for Rome’s Jesus.

Joshua laid His life down for our sins on Passover, according to scripture. Was buried and raised the 3rd day, First Fruits.

A gospel that Paul taught..

That is why He led me out..

The story of Christianity is a roman counterfeit..
Subtle but satan works subtlety..

And the mother and her daughters accept a false premise I don’t accept.

The false premise? That Rome has anything to do with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

They are responsible for counterfeiting the things of God- including His Son, His Holy Days, His calendar.

Catholics and protestants wont see it..

I can’t help but see it..

Thanks to Him!

That is why today is His 6th day to me and not Monday like it is to the world on the pope Gregory calendar.
Daniel 7 and revelation 13 unfolding spiritually every day..

Satan deceives the whole world..


24 posted on 05/25/2015 9:50:52 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Yes, look at the word, “Mazzaroth” and its meaning!

“Canst thou lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season? Or canst thou guide the Bear with her sons? Canst thou knoweth the ordinances of the Heavens?”

“And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to offer in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that offered unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the Mazzarath, and to all the host of heaven.”

The implication from Job is that one CANNOT possibly know the ordinances of the Heavens from the stars; and the implication from 2 Kings is that the Mazzaroth has its origins among the evil pagans.

You can continue to worship the god of astrology. I will worship the True God.


25 posted on 05/26/2015 7:20:05 AM PDT by dangus
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To: delchiante; All

Yes,

Moses and the seventy God said he placed Moses anointing on all of them ! Hallelujah \o/


26 posted on 05/26/2015 8:10:46 AM PDT by Jedediah (The Keys to The Kingdom)
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To: dangus

When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, The moon and the stars, which you have ordained; pslam 8:3

Genesis 1:14 And Elohim said Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for ‘signs’(strongs#226- sign,mark,symbol, a signal or event that comunicates, a supernatural event or miracle as a sign from God)
‘Seasons’( moed strongs# 4150- tent of meeting, appointed time,designated time, season,congregation,time appointed, solemn feasts, set time)
And for ‘days’(yom-strongs #3117-day(24 hours), daytime, indefinite period of time, an era with a certain characteristics like the day of the Lord)
and ‘years’.

His own Word details why those ‘dots’ are where they are and the purpose He ordained them..

Satan can’t counterfeit His sky like He has His Son, His Holy Days and His Calendar. Satan only twists what He has made and that is why you still think astrology.

It is only seeing them in His Light do we see clearly.

And that is why it is prophetic that cashiers hold currency up to the Light so they can tell whether what they have been given is genuine or phony..

Phony counterfeits are not redeemable. It is theft.
And scripture tells us who the chief thief is and thou shalt not steal is one of His eternal Commandments..

The gospel was written in the sky before it was ever written on parchment and before He became flesh.

He ordained it. I have no idea how He did it.. I just know He did it.
The message is He is the Creator! And we are not.

And revelation warns us to worship Him who made Heaven, Earth the sea and all that is in them..

And Satan has created religions to steal that worship..

It is why I observed His 7th day Sabbath yesterday when He rested from creating the heavens the earth the sea and all that is in them, while the world,thanks to satan’s rome,said Tiw’s days are work days..

But again, I met Him as the Roman Jesus and He didnt let me stay there.

And the religions of the world wouldnt understand.

I will stick with Him.. He has taught me so much that has opened my eyes and has transformed my mind that confirms that being conformed to this counterfeit world is blinding..just like Paul warned in Romans 12.

Jews,Muslims,Christians, secular humanist, atheists, etc would see all this as weird.

I am okay with that.
Not the god of astrology.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And the finished work of His Son.
The Creator of Heaven, earth the sea and all that is in them.
Today is His 1st day. The day He spoke light.

Lots in the world call it Woden’s Day. Named after some false god.

I am okay being on the absolute opposite side of the world.

HalleluYah!


27 posted on 05/27/2015 10:21:30 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Oh come on! Psalms 8:3 makes no mention of anything astrological; it’s merely the Psalmist admiring the awesome scale of the universe. “When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, The moon and the stars, which you have ordained, what is mankind that you are mindful of them, human beings that you care for them?” (Ps 8:3-4) That’s pretty much the opposite of the notion that the stars describe earthly goings-on.

Gen 1:16 reveals that the principle lights are the sun and moon, which are the basis for the Hebrew calendar. Again... nothing to with the Zodiac.

>> “Satan can’t counterfeit His sky like He has His Son, His Holy Days and His Calendar. Satan only twists what He has made and that is why you still think astrology.” <<

Nothing in the Bible supposes that Satan counterfeit the Son or the Holy Days. On the other hand, Satan himself is identified with Venus (”Lucifer,” the “morning Star,” the false “angel of Light”), and the dragon’s tail wipes a third of the stars from the Heavens.

Oh, and you’re absolutely right that “Wednesday” is named after a pagan god... The days of the week are named after the lights in Heaven, which in turn are named after pagan gods! “Wednesday” was named after the planet Mercury, following Tacitus’ belief that Woden was equivalent to Mercury. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday are named after Mars, Mercury, Jupiter (supposedly Thor), Venus (supposedly Freya) and Saturn.


28 posted on 05/27/2015 12:20:14 PM PDT by dangus
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To: BlueDragon

added , pressed down shaken together and flowing over


29 posted on 05/28/2015 10:46:47 AM PDT by Jedediah (The Keys to The Kingdom)
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To: Jedediah
Ok, thank you.

Added it is...or at least can be

...if you can forgive my being less than fully committal,

for I am not seeking to unreservedly affirm, or else validate the poetic expressions as being impending prophesy (though it may be for someone, out there in radio-land).

One can always hope.

30 posted on 05/28/2015 11:08:45 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: dangus

You keep mixing up astrology and astronomy..

I am not talking astrology.

I am discussing the movements of His sun, moon and stars in light of what is written in His Word.

Which is why the wise men knew when the King was born. They knew when and where to look in His sky, from the scriptures..

The sign of the woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet really occurred on the night He was born.
And it really occurred on September 26 2014.
That should have been the end of the Feast of Trumpets for Israel in 2014 but it wasn’t for rabbinic reasons.

A simple free download application or maybe a local planetarium can show what happens up there.

It has zero to do with horoscopes or astrology.

It has everything to do with umderstanding the signs and times that are marked by those dots up there in the Light of His Word.

That is what the wise men were. Astronomers.. Scientists..
Watchers.observers of His Creation.

Rome has its own observatory so they obviously see the value..

You mention the days.. Because you work and worship from the pope gregory calendar, you call this day Thor’s day may 28.
I do not. Today is His 2nd day. The 10th day of His 3rd month.
You and I speak a different language on time but I still can communicate in a language you are familiar with (is. Thor’s day)

Does that make you a worshipper or Thor?

That is the same premise you are trying to use when one studies His sun, moon,stars in light of His Word.
You paint it as astrology.

I could use that same premise with Thor and all the other false gods your days are named after and make the case all the worship is false and centered on the satanic power and principality.

He is willing to give wisdom, knowledge, understanding and it helps to reject and maybe unlearn what the world teaches first..

As for satan counterfeiting:

Isaiah 14:13 speaks about Satan wanting to sit upon the mount of ‘congregation’..

That ‘congregation’ is the same Hebrew word (Moed) used in Genesis 1:14 translated as ‘seasons’. #4150 that I gave you in a previous post.

That word is all about the Feasts and solemnities and appointed Times He taught Israel.
(Not spring,summer,fall,winter)

So, Satan’s goal is to be like the Most High.
To steal worship.
He does it with rabbinic Judaism, Islam and Roman Christiniaty.

Those Holy Appointments are not to be moved. they were set up to point to His Son and the Kingdom.

Islam ignores most although they will pay attention at new moon days.

Judaism ignores most of His New Moon days, has changed His Sabbath day (thanks to Rome’s calendar) and are more than willing to postpone or move up Feast days if they conflict with that Saturday pope appointed sabbath day.

Christianity has created Christmas/December 25 which is not bbiblical. They have, because of Rome’s calendar has ignored His New Moon Days ( the day the Son really was born) and have hid His true Sabbath for a false day of the Sun .
They also have rejected the plain scriptures that says the Lamb laid His life down on Passover. And rested in the tomb on Unleveaned Bread. And Raised on First Fruits.
That pattern is not based on Rome’s counterfeit pope Gregory calendar, but His clock in His sky,confirmed in His Word. (14th/15th/16th days of 1st month)

That is why Passover doesnt land on a false goddess Friya day every year.
It is determined by something Roman Christianity ignores: the new moon day.

All of that points in one direction. Satan has used Babylonian religions to sit upon the mount of ‘congregation’ for Islam, rabbinic Judaism and roman Christianity, being like the most High.
Having people worship when the Father says work. And work when the Father says worship..

Stealing worship.
Disguising himself at times as an angel of light..

For christianity, satan has created a roman Jesus, born on a roman holy day. Killed on a roman holy day (good Friday) and raised on a roman holy day (easter Sunday)

That sounds nice and billions believe it.

But Paul never taught that Jesus.

The ‘Jesus’ he taught was the Lamb, our Passover, unleavened bread and First Fruits.

Seems highly technical and overly ‘sola scriptura’ but that is the only way to test and prove all things.

Another Jesus has been created. A roman one. With all the words and deeds of the genuine Lamb.
And unless one tests all things, they won’t see the differences that are so subtle they go unchallenged as ‘givens’..
Those ‘givens’ are simply clever inherited lies that hide the genuine Way, Truth and Life.

Thanks to those 15 promises that Mary quoted for the rosary, I was able to test those with scripture and see she was a liar- or I would still be enslaved in inherited lies and false worship..even as a protestant because my core faith was in that Roman jesus. And that is why I say I met Him as Jesus but He didn’t let me stay there..
He works in mysterious ways!

And the blinders I had on are completely off. May the world of ‘believers’ have the same desire to test and prove all things.


31 posted on 05/28/2015 11:42:54 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

>> You keep mixing up astrology and astronomy.. <<

No, you do. Any talk about Virgo or the Zodiac or Leo or Aires or Taurus is Babylonian astrology, based on Babylonian false gods.

>> I am discussing the movements of His sun, moon and stars <<

Right. That is astrology. Astronomy tells us that the sun and stars to do not move in circles, except on a much grander scale than anything you are discussing.

>> The sign of the woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet really occurred on the night He was born. <<

You keep arguing this from mere assertion.

>> And it really occurred on September 26 2014. <<

And it would seem to be an annual event, if I understand your description. Not the sort of thing you base Revelations 12 on.

>> It has zero to do with horoscopes or astrology. <<

So it has nothing to do with Virgo?

>> Rome has its own observatory so they obviously see the value.. <<

Yes, Rome promotes science. You should read how Cardinal Nicolas di Cusa kicked Galileo’s ass from here to next Thursday. Cardinal St. Charles Borromeo was even named doctor of the Church after having defended Galileo’s heliocentric universe... but Galileo had to go and skip the scientific method and declare that he had disproven biblical authority. To this day, Rome hosts the single greatest conference of cosmologists in the world. But that’s ASTRONOMY, not ASTOLOGY. You don’t need a great big observatory for watching constellations; you can do it with your bare eye, perhaps aided by a few simple tools for adding mathematical precision to your observations.

>> Does that make you a worshipper or Thor? <<

Using references to ancient names for planets (yes, named in turn after gods) is not worship. (It’s not like I actually call it, “Thor’s day,” either.) But you are using pagan gods as signs for Judeo-Christian beliefs. That’s different. A day has real effect on people; only its name is arbitrary. The position of the stars has no effect on anyone. If you do, you practice a false religion. How telling it is that you have repeatedly stated you left Christianity behind.

As for satan counterfeiting, I get my dates for Holy Days from the bible. (Easter, Pentecost, Christmas and the Feast of the Annunciation being the biggest). You get yours from Babylonian demons. Who’s following the counterfeit?


32 posted on 05/28/2015 2:41:07 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

His Sun,moon and stars as signs are lost on you but maybe sombebody will understand the usage of ‘common worldly’ words/names that could be equated to actual Words found in His Word- used so people not familiar with what is really up there in His sky can be understood in a ‘language’ they may be familiar with..

(Ex. Virgo (worldly name vs. Woman (biblical name)

In the same way you use the ‘worldly name Friya Day as opposed to what scripture records today as His 3rd day.

But you miss that and it may or may not be on purpose so I won’t try to explain further as you do not see that woman in revelation in any other way than what your leaders have taught you..

Know that there is another way to see it and the best way is to see it would be to observe His sky.

And that sign in revelation describes a birth of the man child. If scripture didn’t speak of a birth in revelation 12 with that ‘sign in the heavens’ , I could not make the connection

And is it really so hard to see (don’t answer that) a place in scripture that literally says a ‘great sign was seen in heaven’ that it could also mean the heaven (sky) we can see?

This is certainly not for religions. They have their own set traditions and they will not go away from those until Babylon falls.

Funny you mention Pentecost.

Today is the 11th day of His 3rd month and when we read scripture, we read Israel didnt even get to Sinai until the 15th or 16th day of this month!
That is embarrassing .

So Judaism and Christianity gets its own days wrong!
If we add in another 40 days of Moses on the mount , that makes it over 100 days after Passover that he came down the mount on the feast/chag day Aaron declared in exodus 32.. The day 3000 men killed..

Funny, the same day in Acts 2 records 3000 souls saved .
Unless it is a different feast.

But again, Judaism and roman christianity have their own rules and holy days that are counterfeits.

It is why december 25 isn’t just a holy day for catholics but also for her daughters.

And why good Friday has replaced the actual day of Passover and Easter has replaced the actual day of First Fruits.

And how people will say they (december 25 and easter) are ‘biblical’ and be dead wrong.

It is why today is Friya day to you and His 3rd day to me .

I used to be enslaved too and called today Friya day.

But He led me out.

That is why December 25 and easter and rome’s Pentecost are as phony as monopoly money.

And He showed me in His Word and in His Sky what day He was born because I asked , sought and knocked .. And it is an awesome story that proves the Word became flesh and dwelt among us..

And how His New Moon Days, His Sabbaths and His Feasts He taught Israel(replaced by Roman holy days) were also major life events for Him while He Tabernacles here. That would be a shock that christianity can’t afford to ask,seek or knock on because it would expose them as a house of joker cards..

Days that pointed back to Moses and Israel and also to the Son and the Kingdom.. And that ‘sign’ of His birth has moved in 2000 years and it won’t be on pope gregory’s September 26 next year.. (Just like why passover and all His Feasts ‘float’ around the world calendar)
But it confirms a summer birth that ties to hints in scripture and exposes december 25 as babylonian falsehood . (if one is blessed to see it and willing to prove all things)

Shadows that will never be seen if people are enslaved to calling today Friya’s Day.

That is amazing Grace that you can call Babylonian. I know it is all about Him! And the opposite of Babylon.

HalleluYah!


33 posted on 05/29/2015 10:58:35 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

All right, I’m bored. You don’t give any new information, or adapt anything you say to anything I’ve written. Just let it sink in how many times you describe yourself as apart from Christianity.


34 posted on 05/29/2015 1:36:22 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

We don’t speak the same language or have the same Savior so it shouldnt shock us that we appear to talk past each other. We don’t start with the same premise either.

My savior used to be the Roman Jesus that you have..

He did not let me stay there..

And it is why today is His 4th day and not Saturn’s day for me.

I now understand what Daniel was writing and what was written by John in Revelation but only after I stopped doing things like calling today after Saturn.

Prophetic warnings that point to Rome as being a vessel for Satan..something the 1st reformers believed 400 plus years ago ( but before the world ran on a calendar named for a pope)

Roman Christianity won’t see it. They are blind to it.
Worldly people will not see it.

It is not something someone will see with earthly eyes.

I challenge you to explain why Mary lied in her first promise for praying the rosary, contradicting her supposed Son when He confronted Satan with ‘it is written’..

Catholics don’t see that Mary as a liar.
Lots of protestants don’t really care what Mary said but I did.
That is why I have zero to do with Rome or her daughters. They have not done the work I did when I tested and proved all things. A risk to one’s faith but I didn’t want to have my faith in lies.

I no longer do and Yahshua/Joshua led me through the humbling experience of seeing how deceived I was as a protestant christian.

You and I start with a different premise . it is best for catholics and protestants to debate each other because they accept the same false premise that Rome has truth..

Catholics and protestants are on the same false side and I could have these same arguments with them and they too would be ‘forced’ to come to Rome’s side (which is a little ironic given this forum)

Tomorrow will be holy to millions of Protestants thanks to Rome.

On the Father’s calendar, it will be His 5th work day.

Humbling if ones eyes are opened to the part they play in feeding and worshipping the beast.
My eyes were opened. And now I understand what worship in spritit and truth means because I can see the differences.

By His Amazing Grace He let me come out of her..
HalleluYah!


35 posted on 05/30/2015 7:50:13 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Not really interested in going on with you, but just not to let slander go unanswered:

The Catholic Church has never endorsed the apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to Alanus de Rupe, nor has he been canonized, nor has there ever been any historic confirmation that the 15 promises made to him were the same as any made to St. Dominic, who popularized the rosary. The best that can be said is that books citing him have received the “nil obstat,” meaning that there have been bishops who have not regarded his claims as heretical... which is not surprising since Catholics do pray for intercession and the Blessed Virgin has made promises.

Let’s look at some of those promises, shall we?

As an alliance between Luther and Islam laid waste to Christianity across Eastern and Central Europe, tens of millions of converts were gained in the Western Hemisphere...

... As Islamic forces were mounting a final death blow on Central Italy (Rome), Emperor Juan of Austria declared a promise of the Blessed Virgin Mary and taking the lead ship, sailed into a confrontation with vastly superior Islamic forces at the Battle of Lepanto, breaking the back of the Ottoman Empire...

... At Fatima, the Blessed Virgin warned that if people did not repent and turn around the rapidly de-Christianizing Europe, the revolution in Russia would be spread far beyond her borders, a third the Earth would fall to socialism, and a new horrible tyrant would rise causing a war far greater than the World War Europe was enmeshed in. But God’s wrath would relent, a sign would be seen in Eastern Europe and Russia would turn back to Christ...

Those are just some of the most noteworthy geopoitical ones. More locally...

... In Wisconsin, she foretold a great cleansing fire falling from the sky that would spare the Catholic village she appeared to. Scientists have now determined that the Great Chicago fire was part of a network of fires that burned tens of thousands of square miles, the greatest fire even known in North America...

... In Quebec City in1650, she predicted a terrible Earthquake would cast mountains into the sea, but if the residents of Quebec City repented, their city would be spared. The earthquake toppled steeples in Boston and rang church bells in Charleston, SC. Landslides did wash mountains into the Gulf of Saint Laurence, but the lack of destruction in Quebec left scientists wondering how such a strong earthquake could have happened...

So the promises of the Blessed Virgin Mary twice rescued civilization from destruction. You simply were led away from Christianity. Christ told us to look at the fruits of signs. Signs at Fatima, Montreal, Vilnius, Guadalupe, and more have led millions to Christ. Your signs led you away from Christianity.


36 posted on 06/01/2015 7:59:55 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

I was talking about promise number 1.
Mary-
Whoever shall faithfully SERVE ME by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive signal graces.

It is written:And Yahshua answered him, “It is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and HIM ONLY shall YOU SERVE- luke4:8

That is the first promise in that book and the geuine King of Kings,who was quoting Torah, proves this ‘promise’to be a lie..
On the testimony of the old and new testament, in the very first published promise , the promiser is deemed a liar..

Then we have a problem with any and all of the promises if we are to be Bereans..

And promise 14 points this Mary to her Jesus.

That Mary has another Jesus because it is the only way to square that lie.. No lie ever points to Truth. Does scripture talk of other jesuses?
YES..

2 Cor 11:4
for if he that cometh preacheth another ‘Jesus’, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

This ‘Mary’ in her very first promise contradicts what the genuine Truth confronted Satan with when He was tempted..

Catholics usually receives these beads at early ages and have almost no discernment..
Adults who get these beads and the instruction book have no excuse..

Rome has another Mary who points to another Jesus..

And no wonder, for Satan transforms into an angel of light .
2 Cor 11:14

Yahshua’s genuine Torah observant Hebrew mother would never be that sloppy..

The only logical explanation is she or whoever came up with those promises points to Satan disguised/counterfeit of the Way, Truth and Life..

On the testimony of the Word and the Word made flesh.
Two witnesses.

Satan knows the future.. And that includes the knowledge that he loses. And he plays to keeps..
Satan no longer has control over my work or worship like he did when I was enslaved to this world.

But tomorrow is His Sabbath day, the 15th day of His 3rd month. A rather important anniversary of Israel’s exodus in Exodus 19 as Israel was closing in on Sinai for the hearing and eventual giving of the Law 60 and 100 days,respectively, after their deliverance from Egypt..

What a blessing to see 30fold/60fold/100fold in the Exodus before Yahshua proclaimed those folds in His Parable of the sower!

That deeper meaning and understanding doesn’t happen in Judaism or christianity with Rome’s influence..

There is some symbolism of Eve coming out of Adam’s side to be his bride and that was a prophetic image that will occur again at the end when the last Adam will have His Bride come out of His body..

But one would have to recognize mystery babylon as at least partly, chrstianity, to make that connection. And then heed the call to Come out..

And it would see today’s church as the problem and not the answer..

I have done that humbling work with Him as my comforter..
Because all this would seem nonsensical to catholics and protestants.

I asked, sought and knocked and it was uncomfortable.. But He has shown me why He has led me out why He made me unlearn all that I thought I knew.

Something billions of people just can’t and won’t do.. I wasn’t doing it either until He woke me up.

And the church is so divided , His ‘body’ as 1000s of segments and those members just do not understand that He was warning about His people as much as anything. the house divided against itself cannot stand..and the religious man has done it..
From the start..

Amazing twist to see how Christianity is a force for the enemy..
But that is why it is a mystery...
And why the catholic vs protestant debates are so unfruitful as they exhibit the factions and ‘divided house’ of 2000 years of Christianity into man made mess and not His Kingdom..

That is why I am preparing for His Kingdom by His Amazing Grace..
His Kingdom has no Mondays or Tiws days or catholics/baptists/methodists/Presbyterians, etc..

And now I know why when I tried to become a member of one of those, He physically stopped me..

That too would seem illogical to people who have only known a life of being in church.
I was a part of His Body without ever being in a church.
And He didn’t let me become a member of a segment within that ‘body’.
And now I understand why.
Because christianity has been given 2000 years and have failed to live His Kingdom , allowing Satan to influence them..(this is found in prophecy too)

It will be His called out Bride(from His Body just as Eve came out of the 1st Adam’s side) to prepare for His return and His Kingdom.

That too is something that christianity misses but I can see now.

My prayer is all are saved even if their faith is in Satan’s ‘another Jesus’ (imagine if satan actually is disguised as Rome’s Jesus and the words wailing and gnashing of teeth come to my mind)

But He didn’t let me stay there. None of my own doing!

All Him..


37 posted on 06/01/2015 12:59:14 PM PDT by delchiante
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