The Closed Door of Pope Francis

Chiesa Online ^ | 5/11/15 | Sandro Magister

[marshmallow]

Since the end of the 2014 synod, he has spoken dozens of times on abortion, divorce, and homosexuality. But he hasn't said a single word more in support of the “openness” demanded by the innovators

ROME, May 11, 2015 – The second and last session of the synod on the family is approaching, and the temperature of the discussion keeps going up.

The latest uproar is over an onslaught of the German bishops, who now take as a given, in the “cultural context” of their local Church, substantial changes of doctrine and pastoral practice in matters of divorce and homosexuality:

Synod. The German Bishops Are Putting the Cart Before the Horse

Nothing new, in this. Most of the bishops of Germany have for some time been entrenched in positions of this kind, even before Cardinal Walter Kasper opened fire with the memorable introductory talk at the February 2014 consistory of cardinals, in support of communion for the divorced and remarried:

The True Story of This Synod. Director, Performers, Assistants

The new development is another. And it has as its protagonist Pope Francis.

Until the synod of October 2014, Jorge Mario Bergoglio had repeatedly and in various ways shown encouragement for “openness” in matters of homosexuality and second marriages, each time with great fanfare in the media. Cardinal Kasper explicitly said that he had “agreed” with the pope on his explosive talk at the consistory.

[AnalogReigns]

While I think its a mistake to put people in 2nd marriages in the same category of serial sodomists...what in the world is “openness” toward sin?

Sounds non-sensical to me.

And why are German cardinals and such who advocate for sin....still in leadership?

[Texas Fossil]

Read today that he is flirting with the Liberation Theology Element now.

I’m not involved with the Catholic Church, but I know what Liberation Theology is. First saw it connected with the surrogates of the Sandanistas meddling in NM. Back in the early 1980’s.

Liberation Theology is Marxism in a very thin religious wrapper. I know evil when I see it.

That which has been seen, cannot be unseen.

[Cicero]

When he was still being considered for the papacy, the story was that he was against liberation theology, and had fought it while he was a bishop in South America.

I must say, I find a lot of what he says and does troubling. But I’m hoping he will avoid any serious errors. So far, what troubles me the most is his appointment of liberals to important bishoprics and other positions. He seems to have thrown Chicago down into the sewer again, for instance. But who knows?

[RitaOK]

What amazes is that the German cardinals made their bizarre case at the earlier synod this winter, the synod vote was taken, and their case fell through the floor. Typically the vote of the full synod is meaningful, and the subject is not then expected to be immediately resurrected and drug along into the next synod for more redress, as if the vote itself had never occurred.

It was Pope Francis who stuck it back on the agenda for this July synod.

Nevermind that the “book of five” was published by Burke and four others, dispatched to the Vatican synod for distribution and was summarily captured outside the door of deliberation and NEVER passed to the Cardinals in session.
Deemed a distraction, the Cardinals nevertheless voted well and killed the German agenda, without the armor the book had chronicled for their use.

Well, by now, they have that book and should be well armed to resist again, in July. If this foolishness continues to be entertained, and/or a clatter wagon full of bishops in Germany take the praxis into their own hands and defy the Church, then don’t we have a split on our hands, or just more “love” and “dialogue” to distract us from delivering Truth to the Church and to the real world.

[livius]

I don’t think he’s “closed the door.” He’s just gone silent on his objectives because his words were causing too much controversy and he was getting more push-back than he had expected. So now he comes out and says some completely anodyne things and everybody breathes s sigh of relief.

But if you look more closely, you will find that virtually all of those supposedly orthodox statements either included an ambiguous phrase or were followed by words that cast doubt on them. Plus he is bringing more and more radicals into the Vatican everybday, ignoring the Curia and hanging out with his private, heterodox “kitchen cabinet,” and letting himself be photographed now only when he is out ostentatiously kissing a leper or two or hugging a communist dictator.

[rmichaelj]

My opinion which is worth less than the standard $.02 is that it will go similar to humanae vitae. The Holy Spirit will keep the Pope from proclaiming heresy, but there will be a committee which has dissenting opinions. Dissenting Bishops will let dissenting priests disregard church teaching and give scandal by allowing “remarried” Catholics recieve communion. Anyone who argues against the dissenting priests or bishops will be suppressed by officials in the Vatican. (Look up Cardinal Patrick O’Boyle.)

There are somethings that will make a difference. At least in the U.S. the younger priests tend to be more faithful than the older ones (who are now bishops- we have about 30 to 40 more years to endure before the dissenters die off.) The priest scandals knocked out almost all the clericalism that faithful catholics retained. A priest that dissents will likely hear an earful from faithful parishioners. Also parish hopping is much more common now. This will further Balkanize the Church into parishes that are more faithful and others that are more “cafeteria”.

Of course there is always the chance of another “awakenig”. I’m going to put some prayer tome toward that cause.

[Cicero]

Yes, I’ve stopped saying it for a long time now, but about the only thing that can save our country is another Great Awakening, like the ones that happened in America and England in the 19th century.

Whether or not something like that happens is as God wills. Unlike the Protestants here in the forum, who seem to think that troubles in the Catholic Church benefit them, I think we need an awakening and a new beginning in all the churches, if what commonly used to be called Western Civilization is to survive.

[RitaOK]

That’s what I mean. The ambiguity of the pope guarantees the door is not closed to the merrymaking German preferences for these protestant changes and dispensations they seek.

They just want to accomplish their nefarious agenda with some high minded authorization in hand. I don’t believe that authorization will come, if the Bishops have anything at all to say about it. They have already voted it down and these good bishops and cardinals can but look around and see that even outside the Church, it is only the Marxists who are aligning with the provocative ambiguity and backing up the socialistic recommendations coming out of this Vatican.

We are being proven by our steadfast love and loyalty to the Holy Eucharist. Much else has gone wobbly.

[livius]

This really is a test for the faithful. I think that having a Pope who cannot be relied upon has really made a lot of us think seriously and recommit ourselves to the Faith as handed down from the Apostles and even to the Church - not the global socialist organization as conceived of by Francis, but the Bride of Christ and all of the other profoundly mystical realities of the Church.

Of course, that doesn’t mean the future is going to be easy for us..,

[RitaOK]

My dear brother, you have nailed it perfectly.

There seems to be two different tracks the embattled Church has before us. One is a sacred mystery that we should know very well. The other is simply mysterious and we don’t know it well at all.

“My sheep know my voice.” He has given us over to suffer but a little while. I pray with you that by His grace, we stand well.

[Mrs. Don-o]

The German hbishops have, by and large, tons of money (from the German Church Tax) and emptying churches. They are the largest non-Governmental employer in Germany.

I have an underlying suspicion that Pope Francis, underneath it all, deeply distrusts them. What about the high appointments he has given some of them? As they say, "Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer." He's going to let them expose themselves for a season; then the upcoming Synod is going to shut them down.

Which is devoutly to be desired.

It's obvious the Synod is not expected to go their way.