Posted on 05/07/2015 10:21:45 AM PDT by RBStealth
Until his recent conversion to Anglicanism, the broadcaster and author Michael Coren was one of Canadas best known Catholics. He has a Catholic wife and four Catholic children and is the author of books that include Why Catholics Are Right. So when he was formally welcomed into an Anglican congregation in Toronto the other day, after worshipping with them privately for a year, the news caused a stir in the Catholic world. False rumours were circulated about his motives. Old scandals from a career in punditry were dredged up. The uproar cost him several speeches to conservative American Catholic groups, and his regular column in the Catholic Register was pulled. As he tells the National Posts Joseph Brean, he was driven to Protestantism by a growing sense of hypocrisy.
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Because Anglicans are less hypocritical than Catholics? Really?
Q: You say you could no longer worship with integrity as a Catholic. Why not?
A (from Coren): I could not remain in a church that effectively excluded gay people. Thats only one of the reasons, but for someone who had taken the Catholic position on same-sex marriage for so long, Id never been comfortable with that even though I suppose I was regarded as being a stalwart in that position. But Id moved on, and I felt a hypocrite. I felt a hypocrite being part of a church that described homosexual relations as being disordered and sinful. I just couldnt be part of it anymore. I could not do that. I couldnt look people in the eye and make the argument that is still so central to the Catholic Church, that same-sex attraction is acceptable but to act on it is sinful. I felt that the circle of love had to be broadened, not reduced.
Q: You say you could no longer worship with integrity as a Catholic. Why not?
A: I could not remain in a church that effectively excluded gay people. Thats only one of the reasons, but for someone who had taken the Catholic position on same-sex marriage for so long, Id never been comfortable with that even though I suppose I was regarded as being a stalwart in that position. But Id moved on, and I felt a hypocrite. I felt a hypocrite being part of a church that described homosexual relations as being disordered and sinful. I just couldnt be part of it anymore. I could not do that. I couldnt look people in the eye and make the argument that is still so central to the Catholic Church, that same-sex attraction is acceptable but to act on it is sinful. I felt that the circle of love had to be broadened, not reduced.
Well, there you go. At least he's honest. And the Episcopal Church has a formally approved liturgy for a same-sex relationship ... he should be right at home.
Now gaaays are trying to F... Catholic Church.
What else is left?
2% will control the World, yaaaarghhh!!!
“I could not remain in a church that effectively excluded gay people. “
Uhhh....did you check the priesthood?
The Church does not exclude homosexuals. We have homosexuals in my parish. They do not take communion. One is a social Christian and goes because he is expected to go to church.Another is trying very hard to straighten out his life. Perhaps he can’t change his sexual preference but he is working on being celibate. Each of us has our own particular cross to bear. He is facing his and shouldering it. For some it is a predilection for overuse of alcohol.One can face it and deal with it or one can go where alcoholics are appreciated or even celebrated.
Although I don’t agree with much of Catholicism, I will give them kudos for standing strong for their opposition to gay marriage and abortion.
Incidentally, his whole new beef is the church's stance on homosexuality. Given the fluidity of his faith boundaries, neither would I bet against his having sexually ambivalent identity.
All churches are hypocritical to some extent. Because all are run by fallen human beings. You will never find any church free of flaws and hypocrisy.
I made my peace with the Catholic Church when I accepted the fact that it is run by men as flawed as I am (despite their centuries of pronouncements on being infallible).
If I went to another church they’d still be flawed, just in different ways.
Of course. Mankind ruins everything. I was merely questioning his assertion that one church is less hypocritical than any other. I think all churches are hypocritical to some extent, and this guy’s argument for leaving is laughable. He wasn’t leaving because of hypocrisy—he was leaving because of one church’s refusal to change their stance. He should have just come out and said that the church wasn’t offering what he was looking for instead of talking about hypocrisy.
Jumping from the fire to the skillet?
Gonna get along without him now! Michael Coren: So long. See ya later. Bye. Ciao. Arrivarderci!
Gonna get along without him now! Michael Coren: So long. See ya later. Bye. Ciao. Arrivarderci!
Sad.
Genesis 1
English Standard Version (ESV)
26 Then God said, “Let us make man[h] in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29 And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
"The Vortex: Michael Coren" by Michael Voris (Church Militant)
Good video.
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