Ping!
Since when?
The blood of thousands of martyred Protestants begs to differ.
Like the trinity is not scriptural.
SPOCK: I fail to see why you do not understand us. You yourself have stated the need for unity of authority on this planet. We agree.
OXMYX: Yeah, but I got to be the unity.
What the RCC fails to understand, since its very inception, is that Paul outlines the definition of unity in Ephesians 4 ... and it deals with doctrine ... not some sort of mushy 'lets just set aside our differences and agree to work together for the gospel'
You cannot work together for the gospel if you do not have the same understanding of the what the gospel is or how that gospel is appropriated in a persons life.
There is no unity without truth ... and there is not enough truth in Rome for any Biblicist to embrace.
Now being in other Churches will force you to decide before God what you believe based upon your own search, your own study of the Bible, your own reliance upon the Holy Spirit. It will be harder, and yes it might be messier. Everyone may not agree with what you believe. But like Paul said there must be differences if the truth is to shine forth.
It is strange how Catholics quote the Bible when it supports what they want you to think and yet it is not completely authoritative and able to be trusted and relied upon when it doesn't. Then RCC tradition and a Pope trumps Scripture. When is it authoritative, only when it helps their arguments for what the RCC purports, but not when it disagrees with it?
Bishop Sheen “We may not be able to meet in the same pew but we can all meet together on our knees in prayer.”
For the first ten or fifteen years after my reversion, my main apologetical interest was in debating and discussing with Protestants. These days, I rarely engage the Protestant/Catholic debate, and I focus more on the “culture wars” by debating secularists and atheists. Protestants are fellow Christians, our brothers and sisters in Christ, and the Church is very clear on that. However, every so often, I revisit the issues that divide Protestants and Catholics because Truth matters, and because the Church is a stronger witness to the world when we are undivided. At the Last Supper, hours before His death, Jesus prayed that his followers all be...
All people on FR need to quit trying to “steal sheep”. Go out into the world and find tose who need Christ! Quit stirring the pot amongst each other!
Yes, I fully admit I have taken part in the past. A great sinner am I.
HAHAHAHAH! Thanks for the laughs! Funny, ain’t it, how this poor mislead woman’s talking points are directly the talking points and company line of the Roman church. I smell a concern troll once removed.
So she believes in evolution now, right?
She makes a valid point.
And just what new revelations have been given since the NT??
The article meanders all over the place with her reasoning. Her brief references to God’s Word reveals her limited spiritual growth, especially in what Jesus accomplished, and who Believers are IN CHRIST. This could be the result of poor preaching/teaching, but ultimately, its her lack of feeding on God’s Word. Nobody on a steady diet of the sincere milk of the Word would type something so flippant as, “Once you’ve “prayed the prayer” and “gotten saved” (which are very important phrases), then you have your fire insurance.”
I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt, but I would not be a bit surprised if this turns out to be a hoax.
Her thoughts reveal a spiritual immaturity, as well as ignorance of God’s Word, although she does seem to have a lot of religious knowledge. Changing denominational flavors will not fix this. Getting into God’s Word, BELIEVING HIS WORD, and listening to the Spirit, absolutely will. As long as her focus is on religion, whether Catholic OR Protestant, she is missing the boat. Religion can’t do anything for you.
I have listened to about half of the youtube link given in the comments, of the conversation between Tim Staples and Steve Gregg. I don’t know if the host, Mr. Gregg ever realized the irony of him saying several times, “This is just my take.....My take on this is.....I take this to mean.....
Would love to be there when she asks her first question about Mary if she goes catholic.
There's no consistency, no firm answers.
Uh...yes there are consistent and firm answers.
It's all subjective. To be honest, I was talking about this earlier with another Catholic convert, and she pointed out that being Catholic isn't easy.
Yep...catholics pride themselves on how hard it is to be catholic. Lots to remember and lots to do hoping, just hoping you've done the right things and enough of them.
In contrast, being Protestant is. Especially Southern Baptist. Once you've "prayed the prayer" and "gotten saved" (which are very important phrases), then you have your fire insurance. Anything you do, from then on, well, do your best but it's ok regardless. You can't get "unsaved" in that denomination. You're good to go. It's easy, in so many ways.
Wow. She must not be paying attention or reading the Word. The security of the believer is taught in the Word. The Bible teaches that we have been sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise (Eph 1:13-14, 2 Cor 1:22). Do a Greek study of this passage and you will see these are legal terms. There is nothing in the NT that ever says we are unsealed.
If all of our sins, past, present and future are not forgiven, then Abraham, David and others have no hope of eternity. David expressed confidence he would see his little boy in Heaven. That means both have to be there. We know from the Bible that David messed up about every way you could...yet he was forgiven without having to do all the stuff catholics talk about. Same with Abraham. Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. He was not circumcised at the time nor had the Law been given at that point.
His salvation was through faith. This is the argument Paul made against the Judaizers. Abraham believed God.
That is how we come to Him....through faith.
That writer is ludicrously ignorant about protestants.
Isn't that weird...How many times have we heard this???
I started studying not to become a Catholic, but to disprove it, and every negative thing I had heard about the Catholic religion I found to be true...
This is a wild story...I believe this entire story was fabricated...
Would love to see a list of these vastly different translations. Biblehub is a mouse click away and easily shows this writer's charge false. Very minute variations in translation of the New Testament. I'll admit a few head scratchers from the Old, but there are still clusters of agreement. They are not ALL different.
If the translations she refers to cannot be found there, I doubt they are widely read (nor accepted by sound scholars).