Posted on 02/15/2015 6:38:05 AM PST by marshmallow
The Church may yet turn on Francis, that remains to be seen. Until such time, however, to proclaim that Francis is "going against the constant teaching of all of his predecessors" presumes that YOU (or whoever so proclaims this) KNOW the constant teaching better than Francis and the College of Cardinals that chose him, that is sola ipse ego, that is protestantism at its root.
The Church is not simply the Pope alone but the Church acting collectively with the Bishops and the laity. Often in this discussion, doctrine and pastoral practices tend to get confused. Even the outcasts were healed by God’s mercy. The problem is not to admit the wolves into the flock but to make sheep of the wolves. I think this is what Pope Francis is trying to do by taking the message of the Christ to the wolves. As he put it, “contact” is the language of communication. We can’t seal ourselves behind walls of dogma. Dogma must be explained in the language of mercy.
Donna Wuerl is a notorious homosexual and molester of seminarians (when he was rector of a seminary in Pittsburgh). “You can’t make it through here without a twirl with Wuerl.”
When the POPE, in 2004, declared unequivocally that Communion must be denied when pro-abortion politicians approach for it, Wuerl ignored him. Canon Law is also the voice of the POPE. In Canon Law, the Pope is spoken of as “the Legislator.” Wuerl isnores Canon 915. http://tinyurl.com/canon915
All this revolting article proves is that Wuerl thinks he is riding high, and that the Pope likes to snuggle with notorious homosexuals. And I mean NOTORIOUS.
The Pope is not “the Church.” The Pope is the custodian of the teaching of the Church.
To say that Catholics should all fall in line when the Pope says that adulterers should be given Communion is to say that Catholics’ mind are a blank slate. They have no understanding of the Catholic Faith. They simply repeat like robots what the Pope dictates.
The alternative to such mindlessness is not “Protestantism.”
If Francis DOES declare that adulterers must be given Communion, he will be declaring to all the world that HE IS NO LONGER THE POPE, because he will have taught heresy.
What about the mobsters that are given communion and Democrat politicians who are pro-abortion that are given communion ? Adulterers will have to simply make their payments and I’m sure they can receive communion.
Did Benedict actually do anything to stop them?
No.
And Benedict created Wuerl and Burke Cardinals at the same Mass. I think Burke should have told the Pope: Either Wuerl or me, but not both. Wuerl hates Burke’s guts, because of Burke’s famous article on Canon 915. It is Wuerl who is directly responsible for Burke’s exile from the Vatican.
I don’t think it comes down to money, although government money is certainly one of the reasons bishops snuggle with abortionists like Pelosi.
The money that adulterers might “pay” the Church is piddling. The bishops (Wuerl, Dolan, O’Malley, Cupich, Gomez, DiNardo, Chaput, etc.) who give Communion to abortionists are afraid of controversy, and in some cases, afraid that their homosexuality will be exposed. Wuerl was silenced regarding a gay-rights ordinance in Pittsburgh when gay activists sent him copies of photos of himself in a gay bar. Sen. Patrick Leahy some years ago responded to a question about the propriety of abortionists’ like himself receiving Communion by casually mentioning that there is no reason the Congress cannot subpoena all the bishops they please, for interrogations about their coverups of abusive priests.
Bishops like Wuerl, Dolan, O’Malley, Cupich, etc., hate the Catholic Church. Their motive for pushing Communion for adulterers is hatred of the Church’s teaching on sodomy, adultery, fornication, etc., and hatred of the Eucharist.
I am certain that the piddly contributions of the adulterers themselves are hardly on the radar.
So, by believing all of the teachings of the Church for two millennia, a Catholic is substituting his “own private judgement”? Sorry, but the Catholic faith isn’t whatever the Pope decides it to be. As for “the college of Cardinals”, most of them presently are a sorry lot who would sell the faith for a good breakfast. The Church doesn’t teach that the Holy Spirit personally picks the Pope.
I don’ think we need to wait “for the Church to yet turn on Francis” to make our own opinion known. Did you ever hear of the Arian crisis? Pope Honorious? Catholics didn’t sit on their duffs and wait for Rome to tell them what to do. They resisted the hierarchy when they taught falsehood.
How many instances are there of a politician who is Roman Catholic being denied Holy Communion because of their voting record of support for abortion ?
How people many policitians have been excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church because of their voting record of support for abortion ?
I found this link with one anecdotal example:
Of course, with Reformed Presbyterians that adhere to the WCF, the Church Discipline process would be different, but the RC pastor in that case apparently did refuse Holy Communion and steadfastly maintain the refusal in the obstinence of the politician, who seems to have never responded to private letters. I wonder if he attended Church ? Refusal to speak with Church Elders would certainly result in excommunication with proper Church discipline.
I also found this:
Excerpt from the article:
“Bishop Thomas J. Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois, who is well known for his fervent defence of the right to life and the natural family, has sent out a strong message, publicly announcing his support for priests who call themselves Catholics but refuse to administer Communion to Catholic politicians who favour policies that go against the Church’s teaching.
According to Lifesitenews, the prelate wrote to a pro-life activist explaining that he fully supports the decision taken by a priest in his diocese to deny the Eucharist to Senator Dick Durbin, a Democrat from Illinois. Durbin has a 100% rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America and Planned Parenthood which favours abortion.
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The letter Ratzinger addressed to Cardinal McCarrick was leaked to the press and published and its authenticity confirmed. But the points mentioned are not widely or uniformly practiced. The Prefect of the Signatura, Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, is one of its biggest supporters, stressing that denying Communion in certain cases is not a punishment but an act of “pastoral charity” for the above-mentioned reasons. Given his position, Burke can be considered one of the foremost authorities on Canon law. But a decision of this kind would require great courage on the Bishop’s part and could lead to politicians arguing over it or using it for their own ends. This would explain why the Paprockis out there are so few.”
Troubling, IMHO, that this indicates that RC Church Discipline for policitians who vote in support of abortion is a rarity, not the norm.
Absolutely correct.
It is a mortal sin for any minister of Communion to give Communion to a notorious grave sinner—a category that includes all public supporters of abortion.
Thus, all but about a dozen American and European bishops are walking around habitually in the state of mortal sin.
In other words, the Church is currently in a state of anarchy.
The Roman Catholic teaching is to not debate or discuss Scripture with protestants, but to deny that protestants can legitimately debate or discuss Scripture.
Evne though the Holy Spirit dwells within the heart of every believer, according to Roman Catholics the Holy Spirit will keep the heart of true believer blind to the truths of Scripture, unless that true believer is a member of the clergy.
Only the magical magisterium knows Scripture.
Four short paragraphs, four falsehoods.
The Catholic Church does not teach a single one of those four propositions.
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