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FEELING DEVASTATED BY WHAT POPE FRANCIS SAYS? TRY THESE 3 HELPFUL KEYS
Catholic Vote ^ | January 22, 2015 | THOMAS PETERS

Posted on 01/23/2015 6:35:46 AM PST by NYer

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To: defconw

Worship and Love God. It is really that simple.
Try to discern His Will. Know that some day you will be on his shoulder and laughing about this world.

The rest is all man made.


21 posted on 01/23/2015 9:07:51 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The rabbits comment as you say had nothing to do with climate and everything to do with taking responsibility for ones children. Thousands of street kids in Manila? Ring any bells at all? How about at least 40% of kids this country being born to single moms?
22 posted on 01/23/2015 9:08:46 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Salvation

http://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=11514


23 posted on 01/23/2015 9:11:23 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: rwa265

Agreed. Very much in the present moment—shoot from the hip with regards to what God seems to want NOW and do not worry about tomorrow. If one’s position seems to demand that one say something to someone, do one’s best and be done with it. It will also lead to a better understanding of why, back when there was a better understanding of Ignatian Spirituality among non-Jeusits, no Jesuit was ever in danger of becoming Pope. If one is in the seventh mansion, the spirituality in its purest form works well.


25 posted on 01/23/2015 9:16:35 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: rwa265

That would be a very good idea. For all of us!


26 posted on 01/23/2015 9:21:25 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
1) Remind yourself that the Pope was probably mistranslated 2) Remind yourself the Pope isn't supposed to be infallible 3) Remind yourself that the Sedevacantists are taking new members

1) Remind yourself that the pope was probably misunderstood by liberals, or conservatives, depending on which side you are on, like as you do with their interpretation of church teaching, for which they often look the non-infallible words and actions of popes and prelates.

2) If the pope seems to be speaking as a liberal and you are a conservative, remind yourself that the pope was not speaking infallibly, then to counter him quote a conservative pope who also was not speaking infallibly.

3) If you are a liberal then remind yourself that the pope is overall making you feel even more comfortable. If you are a conservative, remind yourself that if the pope really is a far left liberal then you can become, even if perhaps informally, part of the SSPX or SSPV sects, or the beloved EO schism.

4) If you are a liberal then tell liberal Prots they are brothers, but warn them of the evangelicals who vote too much as a block against liberal PC politicians and oppose liberal values more than Catholics. If you are a conservative, continue to attack evangelicals as hopelessly divided and your foremost single theological threat, and promote the pope and prelates as the interpretive solution to sects and division.

27 posted on 01/23/2015 9:45:05 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: RichInOC
I would add, I have often gotten in trouble on this forum for asking someone if they are Catholic. Why is that important to me? If a person is a Catholic (also helps to know if the regularly attend), I can assume they have a basic working knowledge of the Church and I don't have to waste time defining terms.

Pope Francis is speaking to the press many of whom are not Catholic or even religious so it makes sense that he speaks to them differently then he would say the Curia. Also Pope Francis is not well versed in English, if he knows much at all. Plus he has wolves trying to get that "gotcha" question and answer so they can go write their tripe and twist it to fit which ever agenda they need it to.

Also I might add, being South American and Spanish brings a new flavor to the Papacy. The European and American press will have to deal with that. He's not European. The Europeans look down on South America and North America so it's hardly a surprise. So in short this Catholic is not concerned let alone devastated by anything he has said. My job is to hear what he says meditate on it, pray over it and for him and worship Jesus Christ. Easy Peasy!

28 posted on 01/23/2015 9:47:16 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw; Salvation
Actually it is usually RCs who post on controversial remarks by Francis with derogatory remarks by them abounding, which threads would see much less activity if evangelicals did not get involved.

Caucus threads usually get very very few responses except for a certain poster posting dozens of posts to herself.

29 posted on 01/23/2015 9:53:08 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: defconw
Amen to that. The man can't fart with out the protties having a fit.

Apparently the Pope's uncouth communication style is contagious.

31 posted on 01/23/2015 10:21:35 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Salvation

I was not aware that we gave a rip about response numbers.


32 posted on 01/23/2015 10:35:04 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: daniel1212
LOL The pope is supposedly the "vicar" of Christ. A vicar (/ˈvɪkər/; Latin: vicarius) is a representative, deputy or substitute. Yet look at some of the things Catholics are saying about there current "Vicar of Christ".
33 posted on 01/23/2015 10:47:16 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Uversabound

In all the business of the kingdom, I exhort you to show just judgement and keen wisdom. Present not that which is holy to dogs, neither cast your pearls before swine, less they trample your gems under foot and turn to rend you.


34 posted on 01/23/2015 10:48:03 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: defconw; Alex Murphy

Pull my finger?


35 posted on 01/23/2015 10:49:18 AM PST by BlueDragon (Don't mind me, I'm just emulating the Pope)
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To: defconw
When read in context, I have found nothing to be anti-Christian in his remarks.

Check out "Francis' Little Book of Insults" and look up the full context in which they were spoken. Francis has no ill words towards Jews, Muslims , Protestants or pagans. He directs all his pithy criticisms towards his fellow Catholics, especially the sour-pussed, Neo-Pelagian rosary-counters.

36 posted on 01/23/2015 10:54:32 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Alex Murphy
...Meaning that Catholics have grown to enjoy the ambiance?

It gives the sedavacantists something to help reassure themselves?

Nominee for newly-coined "Catholic word of the day" ---

Pontifafarticate

37 posted on 01/23/2015 10:59:21 AM PST by BlueDragon (I'll take "what's the alternative name of the "Francis Show" " for $200, Alex)
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To: ebb tide; defconw; marshmallow
Check out "Francis' Little Book of Insults" and look up the full context in which they were spoken. Francis has no ill words towards Jews, Muslims , Protestants or pagans. He directs all his pithy criticisms towards his fellow Catholics, especially the sour-pussed, Neo-Pelagian rosary-counters.

The book got it's own thread!
The Pope Francis Little Book of Insults

38 posted on 01/23/2015 11:16:15 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

And the little book is growing, day by day, as long as Humble Jorge speaks.

Soon it will renamed the “Big Book of Insults”.


39 posted on 01/23/2015 11:22:09 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NYer
TRY THESE 3 HELPFUL KEYS

Heck; just ONE would work!

We lived thru these guys!!!



Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

40 posted on 01/23/2015 11:35:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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