Posted on 01/14/2015 6:01:53 AM PST by Gamecock
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David knew how to forgive, and he knew how to repent, too
Luke 15:
Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him. 2 And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them. 3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying, 4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. 7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. 8 Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it? 9 And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the piece which I had lost. 10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
David may have been a good guy as a young man, but he was a depraved murderer as a king.
Thank you.
The Catholic disdain for the Old Testament never ceases to amaze me.
We are all capable of great evil, the measure of a man relies on his penitence before God
Hey, dude, the old Testament is where I read the story of David and Bathsheba, and how old David sent Bathsheba’s hubbie to the front to be killed. How he lecherously watched Bathsheba take a bath and probably she was flaunting and flirting.
So, the facts I stated are true, David was a lecherous, selfish adulterer and murderer and this “after God’s own heart” language is a riddle. Do I disdain the Old Testament? The Torah? No. Catholic and Jewish interpretations of the Word of God are the ones I rely on.
So, are you a Martin Luther follower? He was an evil person. Or are you a King Henry follower? He too was evil. Better watch your comments lest they make you look ignorant.
He knew a secret chord.
This thread will show that Christians of various denomination are capable of hateful thought. Not very Christ like.
He was a sinner. As Paul reminds us, "all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23)
What did King David do when called out for his sins? Did he blather inanely, apologizing "if anyone was offended"?
Did he waggle his finger "I am not a crook! I did not have sex with that woman Monic Bathsheba!"
NO.
He confessed his sins and repented.
There's a lesson, here.
Are you a Borgia pope follower? A Medici pope follower?
So, are you a Martin Luther follower? He was an evil person. Or are you a King Henry follower? He too was evil. Better watch your comments lest they make you look ignorant.
I dont know about him but Im a Jesus follower.
Anyone who follows a man be it David, one of the apostles, Martin Luther, or a pope(s) is spiritually deluded and is going to find sinful flaws in their idol. Just as to claim that any man could be the infallible voice of God on earth is heresy.
David was a man after God’s heart because he new alone he falls short. With God, he (David) is capable of anything. David heard God, and obeyed, sometimes. Like all of us humans.
***So, are you a Martin Luther follower? He was an evil person. Or are you a King Henry follower? He too was evil. Better watch your comments lest they make you look ignorant.***
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I follow God and Jesus.
He is the same David no matter which Bible he is in. Yes, he sinned grievously. And when God chastised him, he repented. The story isn’t really about David after all, but about God, who does love us beyond measure, and is always ready to forgive. None of us are any better than David. The Sermon on the Mount proves that. Ever look lustfully at a woman? You’re a lecherous adulterer. Ever get fighting angry with someone over nothing? You’re a craven murderer. That’s God’s view. David was blessed to have the opportunity to repent. But it took a major breaking of his heart to get him there. We who are as guilty as he (all have sinned) should repent also, while the price of learning contrition is not so high, and put our trust not in ourselves, but in Jesus who died for all those sins we so easily condemn on others, but so often ignore in ourselves.
Peace,
SR
David was a gracious man, bearing with the failings of others, eager to give his enemies a second chance. and uncommonly patient with Shimeis spiteful cursing (16:514).
1Ki 2:8-9, And, behold, thou hast with thee Shimei the son of Gera, a Benjamite of Bahurim, which cursed me with a grievous curse in the day when I went to Mahanaim: but he came down to meet me at Jordan, and I sware to him by the LORD, saying, I will not put thee to death with the sword. Now therefore hold him not guiltless: for thou art a wise man, and knowest what thou oughtest to do unto him; but his hoar head bring thou down to the grave with blood.
1Sa 27:8-11, And David and his men went up, and invaded the Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites: for those nations were of old the inhabitants of the land, as thou goest to Shur, even unto the land of Egypt. And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel, and returned, and came to Achish. And Achish said, Whither have ye made a road to day? And David said, Against the south of Judah, and against the south of the Jerahmeelites, and against the south of the Kenites. And David saved neither man nor woman alive, to bring tidings to Gath, saying, Lest they should tell on us, saying, So did David, and so will be his manner all the while he dwelleth in the country of the Philistines.
2Sa 1:14-16, And David said unto him, How wast thou not afraid to stretch forth thine hand to destroy the LORD’S anointed? And David called one of the young men, and said, Go near, and fall upon him. And he smote him that he died. And David said unto him, Thy blood be upon thy head; for thy mouth hath testified against thee, saying, I have slain the LORD’S anointed.
1Ki 2:5-6, Moreover thou knowest also what Joab the son of Zeruiah did to me, and what he did to the two captains of the hosts of Israel, unto Abner the son of Ner, and unto Amasa the son of Jether, whom he slew, and shed the blood of war in peace, and put the blood of war upon his girdle that was about his loins, and in his shoes that were on his feet. Do therefore according to thy wisdom, and let not his hoar head go down to the grave in peace.
David was not a nice man, but then, God doesnt save nice men, just sinners. David was still a man after God own heart so there is hope for us.
Great quote by Bono:
“Psalm 40 suggests a time in which grace will replace karma, and replace the very strict laws of Moses (i.e. fulfill them). I love that thought. David, who committed some of the most selfish as well as selfless acts, was depending on it. That the scriptures are brim full of hustlers, murderers, cowards, adulterers and mercenaries used to shock me; now it is a source of great comfort.”
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