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Rick Warren And Catholics Together
The Heidelblog ^ | December 10, 2014 | R. Scott Clark

Posted on 12/12/2014 8:42:11 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The vast majority of protestants never set foot in the front door of a church. Some just because they don’t feel like it’s necessary to get to heaven and that’s exactly what they’ll tell you. Hundreds of thousands sit in front of a TV set and watch televangelists instead of going to church. The reason? The shyster tells them they don’t need to go to church, to just watch him and send their money to him. Catholics have an obligation of attending Mass each Sunday. If they don’t attend it’s a sin and has to be confessed before they go up for communion in a state of grace. Of course some ignore this requirement, but God knows who they are. But that is the rules, something protestants know nothing about because they have no rules.
And the number of Catholics come from parish records.


41 posted on 12/12/2014 8:24:12 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: Gamecock
When the Protestants rejected Romanist innovations they were not rejecting the ancient Christian faith, they were seeking to recover it.

The beauty of true Christianity is that God has ALWAYS had an elect remnant that remained true to the faith. Many of these believers, like many of the faithful ancient Jews, were persecuted and executed by the religious hierarchies of their day that cared more about power, influence and wealth than truth. Those who backed the Reformation were not all former Roman Catholics, but they WERE among the elect that remained faithful to the true faith because they followed Christ and not men.

42 posted on 12/12/2014 9:39:34 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: GreensKeeperWillie; NKP_Vet
Careful, you're skating WAY too close to antisemitism and racism with comments like that.
43 posted on 12/12/2014 9:44:14 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: NKP_Vet; Alex Murphy
It’s pretty easy when you have ONE CATHOLIC CHURCH and 50,000 ecclesial communities that are not Christian churches

There are almost as many errors in that one sentance than there are words! LOL.

44 posted on 12/12/2014 9:50:30 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Salvation

You can have him!


45 posted on 12/12/2014 9:50:58 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: NKP_Vet; Gamecock
Not me. You read my postings. You know what I think of the protestant Francis mascarading as Catholic.

You're stuck with him! He's yours - mascara and all.

46 posted on 12/12/2014 9:53:13 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Salvation
Oh, my, what would all these protestants do if Rick Warren converted to Catholicism?

The same thing you guys do when a Roman Catholic converts to Protestantism?

47 posted on 12/12/2014 9:57:08 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: NKP_Vet
You spit out far too many generalizations like that for anyone to take what you say seriously. Failed Protestants often make the worst Protestant bashers around. I guess they have to rationalize their reasons for Poping by putting others down instead of finding joy in their own decision.
48 posted on 12/12/2014 10:05:05 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: metmom
However, non-Catholics do not follow men like Catholics do. So if one goes over the edge, it does not drag the whole denomination down with it.

Except in cults, which RCs act more like who anxiously look to men as liberals look to their leader.

49 posted on 12/13/2014 1:29:59 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: NKP_Vet; aMorePerfectUnion
The vast majority of protestants never set foot in the front door of a church.

VAST majority?

Got stats to back that up?

Some just because they don’t feel like it’s necessary to get to heaven and that’s exactly what they’ll tell you.

I don't think it's necessary to go to church but I go anyway.

This is likely to be news to you, but sometimes people go because they WANT to go, not because they have to go, because they're threatened with mortal sin and damnation if they don't go.

Hundreds of thousands sit in front of a TV set and watch televangelists instead of going to church.

Links to stats on that one as well? Proof that they don't watch televangelists instead of going to church rather than in addition to going to church?

Catholics have an obligation of attending Mass each Sunday. If they don’t attend it’s a sin and has to be confessed before they go up for communion in a state of grace.

That's bondage right there. Don't go to church and you are threatened with hell.

And the number of Catholics come from parish records.

Which probably still include people like myself who haven't attended that parish in years. Because we've been told that once a Catholic, always a Catholic so to get their numbers, the Catholic church counts people who don't even attend any more. That's deceptive of the church to include all those people in its head count to inflate their numbers.

50 posted on 12/13/2014 2:57:21 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: boatbums

Anti-Semitism as is a race/DNA of people or anti-Jewish as in the theology of rejecting Christ, the Logos, practical reason, the natural, moral order of the universe. Don’t get baited with hijacked language.


51 posted on 12/13/2014 5:17:35 AM PST by GreensKeeperWillie (There are things so foolish that only intellectuals can believe them. - George Orwell)
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To: boatbums
Careful, you're skating WAY too close to antisemitism anti-Catholicism and racism bigotry with comments like that.
52 posted on 12/13/2014 5:20:40 AM PST by GreensKeeperWillie (There are things so foolish that only intellectuals can believe them. - George Orwell)
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To: NKP_Vet
Most Jews could care less about abortion, one way or the other. Same goes for unnatural marriage. They could care less. About 90% vote for democrats.

Without conceding your first two points, your third is patently false.

53 posted on 12/13/2014 5:33:17 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: daniel1212
Except in cults, which RCs act more like who anxiously look to men as liberals look to their leader.
  1. Is Bill Gothard a cult leader ?
  2. Is Ellen G. White a cult leader ?
  3. Is Aimee Semple McPherson a cult leader ?
  4. Which denomination do you choose to assemble with ?

54 posted on 12/13/2014 5:49:16 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: boatbums

Your problem is and always has been you have a problem dealing with the truth of Christianity and the Catholic Church. In that regard you are exactly like the rest of the Catholic haters on FR. If Rick Warren ever converted to Catholicism it would be for the same reason anyone else converts. They want to be part of the faith started by Jesus himself, the only faith that contains the fullness of the Christian faith.


55 posted on 12/13/2014 6:16:32 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: NKP_Vet; daniel1212

Pinging Daniel1212 to provide actual statistics, instead of NKP’s opinion posted here.


56 posted on 12/13/2014 6:28:07 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: NKP_Vet

While we are waiting for actual statistics for Protestant church attendance, you wrote this...

“Of course some ignore this requirement, but God knows who they are. But that is the rules, something protestants know nothin”

I would point out that “some” in Belgium is more than 80% of Catholics who are totally uninvolved. I’ve posted that statistic at least twice for you.

How are they considered members in your count?? If included, what does membership mean?


57 posted on 12/13/2014 6:32:06 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: NKP_Vet
The vast majority of protestants Catholics never set foot in the front door of a church. Some just because they don’t feel like it’s necessary to get to heaven and that’s exactly what they’ll tell you.

Wow...you might want to extract your foot from your mouth

In the USA 24 % of Catholics attend mass weekly

http://cara.georgetown.edu/caraservices/requestedchurchstats.html

58 posted on 12/13/2014 6:36:14 AM PST by Popman
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To: NKP_Vet

Certainly explains why so many Papist houses of worship are being turning Muzzie.


59 posted on 12/13/2014 7:02:17 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Is Bill Gothard a cult leader ? Is Ellen G. White a cult leader ? Is Aimee Semple McPherson a cult leader ? Which denomination do you choose to assemble with ?

Don't know much about Gothard, and McPherson was too flaky to be much of a cult leader, but White was. What i was referring to was uncritically anxiously looking to men as if they had unique powers, and none of the Baptist or non-denom churches i have been or gone to/go to after leaving RC ones 30 years ago were like that. If so, i would have left.

60 posted on 12/13/2014 9:08:41 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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