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Rick Warren And Catholics Together
The Heidelblog ^ | December 10, 2014 | R. Scott Clark

Posted on 12/12/2014 8:42:11 AM PST by Gamecock

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1 posted on 12/12/2014 8:42:11 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: daniel1212; CynicalBear; Alex Murphy; metmom

Ping


2 posted on 12/12/2014 8:42:45 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock

I’ll take the Catholics and lay the points.


3 posted on 12/12/2014 8:48:57 AM PST by GreensKeeperWillie (There are things so foolish that only intellectuals can believe them. - George Orwell)
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To: Gamecock

Most Jews could care less about abortion, one way or the other. Same goes for unnatural marriage. They could care less. About 90% vote for democrats.


4 posted on 12/12/2014 8:49:40 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: NKP_Vet; GreensKeeperWillie

Oh, my, what would all these protestants do if Rick Warren converted to Catholicism?


5 posted on 12/12/2014 8:56:33 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet

You are absolutely right. It’s even in their “ethics”. (Yea, I know, world’s shortest book.) Abortion isn’t a transgression unless the baby is ‘viable’. Can you imagine a couple of rabbis twisting the law on viability? Whatever helps them in this world - Eden on Earth - is fine. “You take the next life, we got this one.”


6 posted on 12/12/2014 8:58:27 AM PST by GreensKeeperWillie (There are things so foolish that only intellectuals can believe them. - George Orwell)
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To: Salvation

Welcome him home.


7 posted on 12/12/2014 8:59:16 AM PST by GreensKeeperWillie (There are things so foolish that only intellectuals can believe them. - George Orwell)
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To: Salvation

I don’t know about the Protestants but those of us who understand prophesy have been expecting those types of things.


8 posted on 12/12/2014 9:03:04 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Salvation

“Oh, my, what would all these protestants do if Rick Warren converted to Catholicism?”

Say ‘good riddance’.


9 posted on 12/12/2014 9:14:11 AM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: Salvation
"Oh, my, what would all these protestants do if Rick Warren converted to Catholicism?"

Cheer. Good riddance...

10 posted on 12/12/2014 9:14:48 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Salvation

Dance in the streets?


11 posted on 12/12/2014 9:15:33 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Salvation

Rejoice? Same thing as he is doing now, but then he could lay claim to an extra 2000 years of making it up as you go.


12 posted on 12/12/2014 9:17:13 AM PST by xone
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To: Gamecock

Thanks for posting this. While I appreciate Dr. Scott a lot and read him regularly, I take a somewhat different view of Rick Warren. I don’t think he’s ignorant of church history or Rome at all. He’s well read, brilliant, and cagey, so I suspect he knows exactly what he’s doing. I believe Warren is a dangerous deceiver who is bound to and determined to lead the way to Laodicea.


13 posted on 12/12/2014 9:19:29 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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+1


14 posted on 12/12/2014 9:19:50 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: .45 Long Colt

” I suspect he knows exactly what he’s doing. I believe Warren is a dangerous deceiver who is bound to and determined to lead the way to Laodicea.”

+1


15 posted on 12/12/2014 9:24:30 AM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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Were Warren better educated in church history....
Evangelicals are often equated with fundamentalists or the religious right, which annoys Warren. Although he's politically conservative - opposing abortion and gay marriage and supporting the death penalty - he pushes a much broader agenda and disdains both politics and fundamentalism....Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be "one of the big enemies of the 21st century."
-- from the The purpose-driven pastor (Rick Warren calls Christian fundamentalists an enemy)

"The evangelical movement has been confused with both the religious right and fundamentalism, which it is not. I'm not a fundamentalist, and I'm not part of the religious right."
-- from the thread Rick Warren in his own words

The truth for all those who are tempted to swim the Tiber (covert to Rome) is that there is no “Rome Sweet Home.” There are as many “Romes” as there are converts. The ex-evangelical converts have their version of Rome. The liberals have their version of Rome. It’s a Babylon of competing visions only apparently unified. All one need to do is read Darryl Hart’s running commentary on contemporary Romanism to know how deeply divided Romanists really are.

....If the Roman Catholic apologist wants...to cite 8,196 idiosyncrasies within Protestantism, then he must be willing to compare that figure to at least 2,942 (perhaps upwards of 8,000 these days) idiosyncrasies within Roman Catholicism. In any case, he cannot compare the one ecclesial tradition of Roman Catholicism to 25,000, 8,196, or even twenty-one Protestant denominations; for Barrett places Roman Catholicism (as a single ecclesial tradition) on the same level as Protestantism (as a single ecclesial tradition)....
-- from the thread 30,000 Protestant Denominations?

16 posted on 12/12/2014 9:35:15 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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Oh, my, what would all these protestants do if Rick Warren converted to Catholicism?

Decrease the percentage of "voted Democrat in the last election" in the Evangelical category, and increase it in the Catholic category?

Related thread:
Joel Osteen Joins With Catholics To Convert Confused Protestants

17 posted on 12/12/2014 9:40:07 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Salvation

Consider it as proof that he’s lost his senses.


18 posted on 12/12/2014 9:54:55 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Gamecock

1.Does God accept us because of what Christ did for us (pro nobis) or on be basis of what God the Spirit is doing in us with which we are freely cooperating?”

Both! The first point(death and resurrection) gets us into the door...the second develops out of the first point as an on going relationship that continues from our initial salvation! The question is not really a question but a “splitting hairs game” of silly semantics!


19 posted on 12/12/2014 10:03:25 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("trapped by hyenas, Bill had as much life expectancy as a glass table at a UVA Frat house party!/s)
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To: Gamecock
I don't see a problem with people coming together and admitting that they have more in common than what separates them.

Look at the pro-life movement. Catholics held that bag for quite some time. Then Protestants got on board and realized that Catholics don't have horns.

But we need to have some point at which we say to each other that we do have more in common and then decide to build friendships from there.

It is called honest dialogue and it is something I think Jesus would really appreciate.

People don't have to convert to another's religion just because they agree on the basics.

20 posted on 12/12/2014 10:39:48 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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