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"Contraception is widely available,"

I think I see the problem right there.

1 posted on 12/08/2014 4:10:19 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

One thing leads to another.


2 posted on 12/08/2014 4:14:06 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Morgana

they do not take birth control because they know they should not have premarital sex... but they are weak, and so they have unprotected sex, which sometimes results in pregnancy... they do not want to lose face and admit to their fellow Christians that they sin and have premarital sex, so they try to hide it by aborting the pregnancy... some Christians end up having multiple abortions... i used to be a counselor at the local Crisis Pregnancy Center...


4 posted on 12/08/2014 4:18:26 PM PST by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Morgana

I would guess it’s because they’re having sex when they shouldn’t.


5 posted on 12/08/2014 4:20:08 PM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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To: Morgana

This is terrible! Who let sinners into the church?


6 posted on 12/08/2014 4:20:42 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Morgana

““I suspect one in three women on campus have had an abortion,” she said matter-of-factly. “It may be higher. Christian kids don’t want to deal with the shame a pregnancy brings. So they abort instead of tell their parents.””

That really does not seem plausible as I don’t Imagine that Christian women have abortions, and we know that being raised in a Christian church leads kids to be closer to their parents.

In addition, there is no shame in pregnancy, especially in a Christian family.


7 posted on 12/08/2014 4:22:06 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Morgana

If the comments on that page are posted by today’s “Christians’ then that is all you need to know.


9 posted on 12/08/2014 4:26:09 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Morgana

Sorry. Not buying the premise of the article.


14 posted on 12/08/2014 4:32:46 PM PST by subterfuge (Minnesota: the laughingstock of the nation - for lots of reasons!)
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To: Morgana

Christianity is easy until it is not - then it is VERY difficult.

But all things are possible through Christ.

We had friends in a previous parish whose daughter came home for Christmas with an unwanted “gift”. The parents were shamed and stayed away from Church for several months, but the “girl” stayed true, had the baby, and eventually married the Father. They made a truly “blessed” couple!


16 posted on 12/08/2014 4:38:56 PM PST by impactplayer
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To: Morgana

94% of women regret their Abortions.

Woman Know they took the life of an innocent unborn.

Then Most women suffer a delayed PTSD
5 Years Later
10 Years Later
15 Years later.

I was doing a Prolife Fundraiser CHANGE for LIFE after every Mass during October collecting baby Bottles full of Cash.

A woman 36 years old was in back of Church she was frozen in fear with a finger on a Rachels Vineyard Brochure. I told her I would make the Call for her. I did she made an appointment with a Counselor. Then hugged me crying for 10 Minutes. She then said she had an abortion summer after High school. 18 years later she was a wreck.

2 years later I was standing outside mass and she says hello and Gives me a hug. Pulls me aside and says Thank YOU!
I say... for what? She says for saving my life... She said she was going to commit SUICIDE the day after I 1st met her and made the Call to Rachels Vineyard!

To This day I don’t know her Name but she is at Peace with God and herself. I witnessed it!

Don’t mock woman for not wanting pre-marital sex they have very good Marriages 98.1% stay Married because they grew as a couple. BTW you refrain from sex 6-9 months before Marriage you have a 91% chance of a successful marriage!

Read Humanae Vitae it explains it all including Contraception.
It was written in 1968 Predicted correctly 2014 and Homosexual Marriage.


19 posted on 12/08/2014 4:46:31 PM PST by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: Morgana

Thing is, college age kids are old enough to marry. That’s when most people used to get married.

And in the past, instead of an abortion, they’d get married and start their life.

And, that is Biblical.


24 posted on 12/08/2014 4:57:12 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Morgana
so I spoke with a recent graduate of the same university about her thoughts

Nothing like a verifiable source to make a story believable.

31 posted on 12/08/2014 5:33:13 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Morgana
“I suspect one in three women on campus have had an abortion,”

I suspect this student is taking through her hat.

I think I will go ask the guy down at the corner what he thinks people in the city are having for dinner and write an article about it as if it were fact.

37 posted on 12/08/2014 5:50:24 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Morgana
The headline itself is obtuse. I find it difficult to believe that any sentient Christian would have to ask. Surveys for decades have shown that Christians have abortions in roughly the same proportion as unbelievers. It should remind us that Jesus came for the sake of sinners, not for saints.
41 posted on 12/08/2014 6:05:59 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Morgana

That rang several bells in my head also


50 posted on 12/08/2014 7:27:21 PM PST by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: Morgana

One of the other reasons I have heard is that often the Christian university’s reactions to a pregnant unwed student is part of the problem.

When a girl turns up pregnant, she is kicked out of the school, and sent home in shame, all her plans and degree demolished, but almost always, nothing is done about the BOY who got her pregnant.

He is not forced to leave the school, he can finish his degree program and sometimes go on into the ministry. His whole life isn’t ruined by the episode.

It’s that double standard again that is so reprehensible.

That girl did not get pregnant in a vacuum. It takes two and yet she’s punished because of the simple fact that she’s carrying the baby. They BOTH committed the sexual sin and BOTH should have the same consequences but it doesn’t happen. But he doesn’t bear the stigma like she does and yet I’ll bet dollars to donuts that the reason they had sex in the first place was HIM putting the pressure on her to do it.

I still don’t believe that in general, the girl initiates sex in a dating relationship. There is too much of the emotional tie in it for girls to take it so lightly.

So, for the girl to not have her life ruined, she will often succumb to the pressure to have an abortion.

And sadly only find out later the true price that is paid when the bill comes due.


52 posted on 12/08/2014 7:45:00 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Morgana

This article is irresponsible, to begin with.

There’s a lot in it that could be commented upon, but for the moment, at least, I’ll just say that it’s wrong how the author uses the opinions of one “recent graduate” (and to some extent, of the pastor, as well) as if her perceptions can simply be taken not only as representative of the women at this college, but apparently also of all college-educated or even college-aged Christian women. One single former student = all young Christian women.

But even worse than just taking this one woman’s opinion as “gospel,” is that she gives, and he prints, without any words of caution, her numerical estimate of “one in three” of the women, and maybe higher. (And “one in three?” That’s the title of a Planned Parenthood and/or “pro-choice” campaign right now, so was this woman a liberal on the Christian campus?) Such a “statistic,” if retold a few times without the source, can easily be mistaken as coming from an actual poll of the women on this one campus, or even from all Christian women of this age.

Certainly the picture isn’t very good anywhere in North America or Europe, but one person’s perceptions on something like this cannot simply be taken as the truth. And even though she’s anonymous, the question isn’t even asked if she has had an abortion herself (or did I miss that?)

Either way, though, the “statistic” she provides comes from her own life experiences with her tiny circle at college, and the article even says almost nothing about this one woman, and her actual beliefs. But places like Huffington Post are full of articles by or about ex-Christians who grew up Christian, with many even going to Christian colleges, and later saying they were atheist or doubters since they were children.

And, not all “Christian families” are the same, either. Once I became a part of evangelical churches, and began to know other people, and saw so many were parents, I also saw that however strong or weak (and sometimes possibly not even there) their faith was, their children would be influenced in their view of Christianity by that faith (or lack of it) in their parents, all though they were all in the same church.

All in all, this article is highly irresponsible and should not have been published as is. Christian journalism is so often very good, especially in bringing light to what secular journalism has wanted to hide, but this article is a definite exception to that.


60 posted on 12/09/2014 4:19:11 AM PST by Faith Presses On
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I have read that the most effective thing is stories— not statistics— in persuading people to be chaste. It works to say, “Well, you know what happened to Aunt Sadie...”. In our family, my son’s best friend was born to an unwed teenage mom. My daughter and I have talked about how, as a Christian, she gave life to her son, and we are all better off for it, because we have had the gift of his friendship. However, the ideal way is to bring life into the world with the full support of two responsible parents. So, she should keep her pants up until she is married, and most prepared to share the joy of children.

I think Christians forget that humility is part of the deal— so if it’s embarrassing to be caught sinning, oh well.


63 posted on 12/09/2014 7:34:18 AM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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