[vladimir998]

“LCMS and WELS are not even in communion with ELCA and other so called Lutheran churches.”

True. But the LCMS is talking more to the Vatican now than WELS or ELCA. It’s on the down low, but it is happening.

[utahagen]

Is the LCMS really quietly talking to the Vatican?! That would be good news indeed. (The agreement about justification ten or fifteen years was between the Vatican and ELCAesque Lutheran churches in Europe, not with LCMSesque churches over there. This all gets fuzzy because there is no centralized Lutheran church.)