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Catholic Diocese Offers Plan to Settle Abuse Claim
ABC News ^ | Nov 18, 2014 | AMY BETH HANSON

Posted on 11/18/2014 4:05:15 PM PST by Gamecock

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To: metmom

Thank you. I know for a fact there are many Catholics who grieve along with these children for what they endured. Please don’t judge an entire faith of people by the words or actions of a few. I know I am not alone.


21 posted on 11/18/2014 5:53:14 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: ravenwolf

***I don`t like scumbags even if they were molested.***

Neither do I. I believe that the abused do not have to keep the cycle of abuse going. With help, I think that can be achieved.


22 posted on 11/18/2014 5:58:00 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Resettozero

Every time I read that verse, I think of the pedophile priests, too.


23 posted on 11/18/2014 6:02:19 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: lewislynn
I read here almost daily about how awful Mormans are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5evKY5n0GM

24 posted on 11/18/2014 6:04:22 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

Thank you. I may not be the average Catholic, but I’m sure that if we met on the street we would have much in common, including certain aspects of faith.


25 posted on 11/18/2014 6:06:14 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Gamecock; FamiliarFace

Agreed!


26 posted on 11/18/2014 6:15:45 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FamiliarFace

Neither do I. I believe that the abused do not have to keep the cycle of abuse going. With help, I think that can be achieved.


It is not up to me to place the blame but if it was I don`t think I would know if the blame should be placed on the Church or the people who keeps on supporting it.

It is kind of like government, do we blame the servants or do we blame the people.


27 posted on 11/18/2014 6:25:04 PM PST by ravenwolf (` Does the scripture explain it in full detail? if not how can you?)
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To: lewislynn
Yea,yea I know but did you know a hundred yrs. ago a Morman had 40 wives? And not man wives, I know, weird huh? I read here almost daily about how awful Mormans are.

Who are these "Mormans" of which you speak?

28 posted on 11/18/2014 8:05:52 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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http://stopbaptistpredators.org/article07/child_sex_abuse_by_protestant_clergy.html

Child Sex Abuse by Protestant Clergy Difficult to Document

“But tracking allegations and confirmed cases of misconduct by Protestant clergy is an elusive task because Christianity’s other ecclesiastical division is wildly diverse, congregational and sometimes staunchly independent compared to Catholicism’s centralized hierarchy.”

http://dannimoss.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/protestant-clergy-abuse-equals-or-exceeds-catholic-clergy-abuse/

Protestant Clergy Abuse Equals or Exceeds Catholic Clergy Abuse

“The Associated Press reported recently that three insurance companies receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by Protestant clergy, challenging the assumption that clergy sexual abuse is an exclusively Catholic problem that does not take place in other churches.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/protestant-sex-abuse-boz-tchividijian_n_4019347.html

Evangelical Sex Abuse Record ‘Worse’ Than Catholic, Says Billy Graham’s Grandson Boz Tchividijian

“AUSTIN, Texas (RNS) The Christian mission field is a “magnet” for sexual abusers, Boz Tchividjian, a Liberty University law professor who investigates abuse said Thursday (Sept. 26) to a room of journalists.

While comparing evangelicals to Catholics on abuse response, ”I think we are worse,” he said at the Religion Newswriters Association conference, saying too many evangelicals had “sacrificed the souls” of young victims.

Protestants can be very arrogant when pointing to Catholics,” said Tchividjian, a grandson of evangelist Billy Graham and executive director of Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment (GRACE), which has investigated sex abuse allegations.”

http://www.fbi.gov/charlotte/press-releases/2014/minister-pleads-guilty-to-child-pornography-charge

Minister Pleads Guilty to Child Pornography Charge

“RALEIGH—United States Attorney Thomas G. Walker announced that in federal court today Timothy Jack Strickland, 42, of Mount Olive, North Carolina, pled guilty before United States District Judge Terrence W. Boyle to being in receipt of child pornography, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 2252(a)(2).”


29 posted on 11/18/2014 9:32:50 PM PST by common-sense-man-1776 ("Whoever does not seek the cross of Christ doesn't seek the glory of Christ." St. John of the Cross)
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To: common-sense-man-1776

Now show us all a thread of members of some other denomination proclaiming proudly that their clergy concealing knowledge of ongoing wrongdoing from the authorities is a good thing.

As several Roman Catholics do on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3227423/posts


30 posted on 11/18/2014 10:06:00 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

OUCH, that stung /sarc. The point of my posting is that abuse is across every religious group.

To address your “Red Herring” question. Talk about concealing wrongdoing and not “Facing the Music”. I am still waiting for the flood of sinners, who answer the alter calls that I see each week on TV, turning themselves over to the police for the murders, thefts, etc., that they have committed, and have just “confessed directly” to God at the alter call.

I have never heard a pastor tell the people, that once they make the alter call that they will then need to turn themselves over to the police, for abusing their child, robbing the bank, or murdering a person. Hmmmm...I wonder why pastors do not add that information before the alter call?


31 posted on 11/18/2014 11:02:34 PM PST by common-sense-man-1776 ("Whoever does not seek the cross of Christ doesn't seek the glory of Christ." St. John of the Cross)
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To: common-sense-man-1776
I am still waiting for the flood of sinners, who answer the alter calls that I see each week on TV,

That Galatians 5:12 IS a powerful incentive!

32 posted on 11/19/2014 4:37:32 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FamiliarFace
I think this example and many others in not only the Catholic Church but most others as well is evidence that putting faith or trust in any institutionalized religion is dangerous and built on sand. I have put my trust and faith in Christ alone as the rock. I have watched as power, money, pride, and lust have corrupted those in leadership of nearly every "church" I know of. I think the Psalmist said it best "Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save."
33 posted on 11/19/2014 5:16:12 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: common-sense-man-1776

I knew we could count on at least one post that essentially says “see, others do it too”. Well then!! That makes it all better right?


34 posted on 11/19/2014 5:26:06 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Gamecock

“One would think priests should be held to a higher level.”

Okay, I’ll bite: Why would you - who seem to attack priests and the faith they are commissioned to uphold at every turn - saying “One would think priests should be held to a higher level”? If anything aren’t they being held at the level where you put them?


35 posted on 11/19/2014 5:31:25 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: metmom
Hold someone who claims to be Christ’s representative here on earth to a higher moral standard than the rest of mankind?

And they claim to become Christ at times...

I wouldn't want my kids near any priest because - how do you know???

36 posted on 11/19/2014 6:14:36 AM PST by Iscool
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To: FamiliarFace
Please don’t judge an entire faith of people by the words or actions of a few.

It isn't the faith of the Christian that is in question; it's the historic and continuing practices of a church that tells other Christians the same things as do members of the Islamic faith. Please re-read your words above.

My only advice is to come out of her and find another Christian place to worship God, preferrably a congregation that centers its faith on Christ alone, as revealed through the Holy Bible by the Spirit.
37 posted on 11/19/2014 6:15:20 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: FamiliarFace
Thank you. I know for a fact there are many Catholics who grieve along with these children for what they endured. Please don’t judge an entire faith of people by the words or actions of a few. I know I am not alone.

Jesus said, 'you are either for me or against me...No middle of the road...Why are Catholics not bonded together to get these perverts out of your religion??? That ought to be right at the top of the list...

38 posted on 11/19/2014 6:19:29 AM PST by Iscool
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To: common-sense-man-1776; MrEdd
The point of my posting is that abuse is across every religious group.

Again. So what?

How many times to Catholics need to be told that it's not that the abuse happens that is the problem.

Everyone understands that abusers will abuse and find some way to do it.

And reprehensible as that is, the real issue is the lack of action by the Catholic church for decades at the very least of appropriately dealing with the situation.

It took the victims going public with it to FORCE the RCC's hand into finally taking action.

THAT is what the real problem is.

The church did worse than nothing about it. It actually shuffled priests from parish to parish, giving them opportunity to abuse again, giving them more victims.

They need to burn in hell for that. What they did was no more than guard the door while the abuse was going on within the room.

They are just as complicit in the crimes as if they had done it themselves.

39 posted on 11/19/2014 6:20:30 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Iscool

You wouldn’t know. My question is why would a child be alone with a priest in the first place?


40 posted on 11/19/2014 6:21:06 AM PST by bonfire
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