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To: defconw
My two cents:

"baby showers for unwed people"

I would think there would be no problem in attending. Children are always a blessing. I would, however, question the father and mother about their intentions in getting the unmarried issue resolved.

"weddings where no one goes to church but they get married in a church."

For a protestant wedding I would attend but not be part of any Wedding Party. I would ask "is this the Church you are raising your children in?" or something similar." Not a direct attack, but they know exactly where you are coming from.

For the gay family member, I would only say something if he brought a "friend" home. Having disordered desires is not sinful, acting on them is.
8 posted on 11/17/2014 9:07:04 AM PST by DarkSavant
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To: DarkSavant

Sounds reasonable. We have moved about 9 hours away the epicenter, so now I feel less constrained. For the record, a friend of mine, got divorced and remarried out side of the Church, years ago. They had both been Catholics. Her family was upset and his family was upset. My arm got twisted into attending. They got married at an indoor golf course. Worst wedding I ever went to. The friendship waned. I took a stand about that wedding and it was messy. Like I said my arm got twisted. Never again.


9 posted on 11/17/2014 9:16:41 AM PST by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: DarkSavant
"Having disordered desires is not sinful, acting on them is."

You have nicely encapsulated my position. "Disordered desires" can refer to a lot of things, but all of them lead a person away from Christ.

10 posted on 11/17/2014 9:17:27 AM PST by Pecos (That government governs best which governs least.)
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To: DarkSavant
Having disordered desires is not sinful, acting on them is.

Seems like people are no longer recognizing temptation for what it is.

I don't believe that it's *disordered desires*. I think it's just temptation, plain and simple.

But too many people have swallowed the world's lie that if they have the thought or desire, then it must mean that they are ___________; instead of thinking, *Oh, I'm being tempted to do ___________*.

26 posted on 11/17/2014 5:57:50 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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