[Heart-Rest]

"It can't be an *interpretation* from Scripture because Scripture does not teach it. The Catholic church is teaching as truth, something with no basis, with no Scriptural support."

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Here are some links I've collected which help to give a broad biblical basis for "purgatory", for anyone interested in checking them out.    (Freeper "boatbums" also made a point about "purgatory" in her post #56 saying, "I think many Catholics would be surprised to learn that there really is no consensus within their religion about Purgatory" (since it is not exhaustively described or documented) -- as, of course, "heaven" and "hell" also are not exhaustively described or documented -- but three of these links which I'm providing here (which contain the name "Jerry Walls", a Protestant scholar) illustrate that there is also not a real unanimous consensus among Protestants about "purgatory" either.)

Some Helpful Links About "Purgatory"

• "Scott Hahn Q&A on The biblical basis for Purgatory"
  
  
• "Purgatory"
  
  
• "The Roots of Purgatory"
  
  
• "Is Purgatory in the Bible?" by Tim Staples
  
  
• "Scriptural Basis for Purgatory - A Catholic Perspective" by Tim Staples
  
  
• "I have an Evangelical friend at work who claims that the Catholic belief in Purgatory is not scriptural. What should I say to him?" by John Martignoni
  
  
• "Why Do Catholics Pray for the Dead?" - Fr. Robert Barron
  
  
• "Why should we pray for the dead and what's Purgatory all about?" - Fr. Ivel Mendanha, C.Ss.R.
  
  
• "Jimmy Akin answers Protestant questions about Purgatory"
  
  
• "A Discussion on Purgatory with Dr. Jerry L. Walls" (a Protestant professor's argument for purgatory)
  
  
• "C.S. Lewis: A Case for Mere Purgatory with Dr. Jerry Walls" (Protestant scholar)
  
  
• "Is purgatory a physical place?" by Jimmy Akin
  
  
• Book - "The Biblical Basis For Purgatory" by John Salza
  
  
• Book - "A Pocket Guide to Purgatory" by Patrick Madrid
  
  
• Free mp3 download - "Mary & the Bible; plus Purgatory & the Bible" by John Martignoni
  
  
• Book - "Purgatory: The Logic of Total Transformation" (Defense of purgatory) by Jerry L. Walls (Protestant scholar)
  
  
• Book - "Catholic Christianity: A Complete Catechism of Catholic Church Beliefs Based on the Catechism of the Catholic Church" by Peter Kreeft (contains a good summary of the Catholic teaching on purgatory)
  
  

(Song -- "Whiter Than Snow")    

"Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow."   (Psalm 51:7)

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"If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward.    If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.    Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?"   (1 Corinthians 3:14-16)

[boatbums]

Here are some links I've collected which help to give a broad biblical basis for "purgatory", for anyone interested in checking them out. (Freeper "boatbums" also made a point about "purgatory" in her post #56 saying, "I think many Catholics would be surprised to learn that there really is no consensus within their religion about Purgatory" (since it is not exhaustively described or documented) -- as, of course, "heaven" and "hell" also are not exhaustively described or documented -- but three of these links which I'm providing here (which contain the name "Jerry Walls", a Protestant scholar) illustrate that there is also not a real unanimous consensus among Protestants about "purgatory" either.)

The words "heaven" and "hell" certainly are in Scripture. The word "purgatory", though is NOT. There doesn't NEED to be unanimus consensus for Protestants on Purgatory since that dogma is REJECTED. Even the Orthodox reject it! My point is that if your religion is going to make something dogma, mandatory to be believed, invent "rules" for how to get people out and other associated doctrines like prayer to departed saints, the treasury of merit, Mary being used to get people out, etc. shouldn't it be expected to have some sort of detail figured out before it gets cemented as an infallible dogma??? Even the meager attempts to appeal to Scripture passages for proof texts is inadequate and it is already known that the Roman Catholic church says she doesn't NEED to rely upon God's word since truth is whatever they say it is.

Maybe that's just peachy fine for some people, but it isn't for me. I know that what God intends for us to believe about Him IS contained in His sacred word and it won't be dependent on some people centuries later finally getting around to figuring it out.

[redleghunter]

Could you please post the verses here and present the exegesis to back up your conclusions?

[Elsie]

"Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow."   (Psalm 51:7)

 

 

Prayer to Our Lady taught to St. Gertrude

O most chaste Virgin Mary,

I beseech thee by that unspotted purity wherewith thou didst prepare for the Son of God a dwelling of delight in thy virginal womb,

that by thine intercession I may be cleansed of every stain of sin.

 

 

 

Prayer to Mary, Queen of Heaven and Earth

O Mary, may the souls who suffer cruel torments in Purgatory, purified by the ardor of the flames, be the object of your compassion!

O Mary, Open Spring which cleanses our faults, Reconciler of sinners, reach out to those who pray you and implore your assistance in Purgatory!

O Mary, intercede for our deceased. They await patiently the end of their suffering when they will see you and taste eternal joys!

O Mary, Model of the Just, Guide of the Faithful, Salvation of those who hope in you, help us to pray ardently for the souls of the deceased and touch the Heart of your Divine Son!

O Mary, by the merits you have gained, give the dead true life, obtain mercy for them, and be the way which leads to your Son Jesus and to Eternal Rest!
Amen.

 

 

 

[Iscool]

Here are some links I've collected which help to give a broad biblical basis for "purgatory"

That is NOT a broad biblical basis for anything...They all say the same thing...Just one repeating the next one...

And they all go back to the same verse to prove something that isn't true...

As is his style, Hahn is his video again perverts the scripture to try to make it prove something it doesn't say...That's called deception...

When he's done messing with it, he's got you Catholics convinced that you are purified by traveling thru some fire in purgatory when the verse says no such thing...

The verse says your works are purified by fire and the fire saves you by burning up any evidence of not so good works...

Pitiful as usual...