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Bishops Approve First English Translation of Exorcism Ritual
Aleteia ^
| 11/12/14
| John Burger
Posted on 11/12/2014 6:27:36 PM PST by marshmallow
USCCB votes on new "manual," but without Latin on the side.
The bishops of the United States have approved publication of the first ever official English translation of the ritual book, Exorcisms and Related Supplications.
The proposal passed by 179 votes to 5 Tuesday. The translation now needs a "recognitio" of the Vatican's Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments.
Revised after the Second Vatican Council, the exorcism ritual was promulgated in Latin in 1999 with an amended version in 2004. According to the Committee for Divine Worship, the main part of this book is the rite of major exorcism and includes an introduction outlining criteria for its use, which is always the decision of the bishop alone. While this text affirms the reality of evil in the world, it even more so affirms the sovereignty of Christ to overcome any and all evil.
Some of the changes in the new translation seem minor, such as using the spelling Zion rather than Sion. The phrase "rise up to help me" was altered to "arise in my defense."
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One exorcist, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the nature of his work, said that having the rite in English "will be a nice tool for those of us whose Latin is not up to snuff.I think many exorcists will stick with the Latin translation," he added. "There is some belief among exorcists that the Latin prayers are more effective in driving out demons." Ahem.....
To: marshmallow
Bishops Approve First English Translation of Exorcism Ritual Was November 4th the beta test?
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posted on
11/12/2014 6:29:19 PM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
To: marshmallow
I guess Malachi Martin did it in Latin.
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posted on
11/12/2014 6:32:46 PM PST
by
MUDDOG
To: marshmallow
Perhaps if an exorcist were versed in the langue inconnue it would prove efficacious:
"The Damnation of Faust - Has! Irimiu Karabrao "
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"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"
Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
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posted on
11/12/2014 6:42:33 PM PST
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in Battle!)
To: marshmallow
The first New Age pope.
Ain't it grand?
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posted on
11/12/2014 6:52:15 PM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
To: marshmallow
Good grief.........Have we gone back to the dark ages?
To: marshmallow
Converting the rite of exorcism to the vernacular is basically a way of saying, “We don’t believe in demons, so we don’t believe in exorcism, just in mollifying people who believe that demons exist.”
This is based on the idea that ignoring evil will overcome it. Or worse, that good and evil are subjective.
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posted on
11/12/2014 7:07:45 PM PST
by
yefragetuwrabrumuy
("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
To: marshmallow
I wonder if it would work at the whitehouse?
To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
“I wonder if it would work at the whitehouse?”
The article said English, not Ebonics.
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posted on
11/12/2014 7:40:55 PM PST
by
CrazyIvan
(I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
To: marshmallow
Faith, prayer and fasting...and the work of the Holy Spirit.
To: marshmallow
Revised after the Second Vatican Council, the exorcism ritual was promulgated in Latin in 1999 with an amended version in 2004.It still amazes me how so many revisions, innovations, abuses, etc. are referenced back to the Second Vatican Council. It seems to be the greatest milestone in Church history.
The bishops need to practice both the new exorcism rite and the old exorcism rite on Uncle Cardinal Teddy McCarrick; he's retired and expendable. I'll bet the farm that only the latter will be effective.
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posted on
11/12/2014 8:56:13 PM PST
by
ebb tide
To: marshmallow
"Like, the Power of Christ, you know, compells you!"
-From the New Age Translation of the Rituale Romanum
Regards,
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posted on
11/12/2014 9:16:19 PM PST
by
alexander_busek
(Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
What is the possible point of doing an exorcism in the vernacular? The prayers address the demons directly (as well as God). Are they in English that so that the non-Latin-speaking demons will feel fully included in the prayers of the community? /s /s /s
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posted on
11/12/2014 9:28:51 PM PST
by
Campion
To: marshmallow
This reminds me of the “Exorcism of Jonah Hill” scene from “This Is The End”:
Jay: The power of Christ compels you!
Demon: Guess what? It’s not that compelling.
Seth: Jay, are you serious right now? That’s your plan? To repeat lines from “The Exorcist”?
Jay: I would assume they did their research...
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Why do you think that? Christ and the Apostles didn’t use Latin when they cast out demons, and they were still effective.
To: marshmallow
Based on my childhood experience of parochial school in the '70s, the vernacular presents too great a temptation for some priests to
ad lib all but the most solemn prayers.
The vernacular, a traveling mic, and a narcissistic priest . . . truly an unholy trinity.
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posted on
11/13/2014 4:56:11 AM PST
by
Oratam
To: Boogieman
The rite could be in any language; demons understand them all just fine. The only reason for putting it the
vernacular is so laypeople present can understand it. Why would anyone think they need to understand it?
Only if they don't really believe there's anyone else listening! As I explained above, the prayers aren't addressing people and aren't there to teach people. They're directed to God, and in some cases directly imprecating the demons in God's name -- in at least one case, at some length. (Several pages worth.) Real demons understand them just fine as they are.
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posted on
11/13/2014 5:03:24 AM PST
by
Campion
To: Campion
LMAO.
I’d wager that Satan will just laugh at the vernacular.
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posted on
11/13/2014 5:08:25 AM PST
by
piusv
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