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The Loosing of the Leash: Card. Burke appointed to Knights of Malta
http://wdtprs.com ^ | November 8 2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 11/08/2014 3:27:47 PM PST by NKP_Vet

His Eminence Raymond Card. Burke is now Patron of the Knights of Malta. This is not the usual way of doing things, as it has been pointed out before. First, the position is usually saved for a Cardinal who is in the twilight of his career… although during this pontificate this may still be true. Keep in mind that, since His Eminence is pretty young for a Cardinal, in the next pontificate, another Pope could snap his fingers and make Burke Prefect of a Congregation. Second, now that Card. Burke is no longer the Prefect of a Dicastery, he is far freer to act and to speak than he was before.....


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"May God grant Cardinal Burke the continuing strength and courage to defend the Faith against the heretics in the Church". And the heresy starts at the top.
1 posted on 11/08/2014 3:27:47 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Knights of Malta v. Soldiers of Jesus.

It will be interesting.


2 posted on 11/08/2014 3:54:48 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; bushwon; ...

More on Cardinal Burke’s sideling to Malta. Cardinal Burke is the former Bishop of LaCrosse, WI.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


3 posted on 11/08/2014 4:11:23 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: NKP_Vet

Here is an EXCELLENT homily that was proposed by someone over at Fr. Z’s, which very much speaks to the concerns of well-intentioned people, for the most part, regarding this whole issue:

http://www.audiosancto.org/sermon/20141102-Dialectics-and-Dialecticians.html

Let us all examine our hearts before going to sleep this night.


4 posted on 11/08/2014 4:36:20 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NKP_Vet

**Now that Card. Burke is no longer the head of dicastery, it is doubtful that he will be appointed by Pope Francis to the next Synod in 2015.

That does not mean that he has been silenced.**

But he is still an Archbishop!


5 posted on 11/08/2014 5:06:04 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SumProVita

Very interesting. Clearly, Pope Francis’ tactics mirror those of the classic “dialectical leader”, but he has overplayed his hand in his vile treatment of Cardinal Burke. Other American bishops such as Tobin are beginning to speak out. Should Francis attempt to synthesize Truth with lies (as was attempted in the interim relatio) there will undoubtably be pushback from the Defenders of Truth, both clerics and laity.


6 posted on 11/08/2014 5:45:30 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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“Clearly, Pope Francis’ tactics mirror those of the classic “dialectical leader”...”

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Careful...what may SEEM clear may actually be under the cover of a dialectic used by satan. Listen again to the last part of that homily.

IF a member of the clergy is doing something that seems incorrect, it is absolutely NOT for the betterment of the Church for us to begin chattering about that *among ourselves.* That constitutes an attack, not only on the particular member of the clergy, but on the Church as a whole. There IS a process to follow and it is strongly based in Scripture and the Teaching Magisterium. Its purpose is to protect us from becoming dialectic participants....and to safeguard our own journey to holiness. This offers us the way to speak out properly and depend PRIMARILY on God.


7 posted on 11/08/2014 6:02:16 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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If a member of the clergy is doing something that seems incorrect, it is absolutely NOT for the betterment of the Church for us to begin chattering about that *among ourselves.*

That may be the priest's and your opinion; but I'm sure glad Sts. Paul, Athanaisus and Catherine of Sienna didn't share it with y'all.

To quote St. Catherine, "We've had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence."

8 posted on 11/08/2014 6:22:11 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Sure wish Mother Angelica could still talk. She would lower the boom on Francis and the rest of his liberal cabal.


9 posted on 11/08/2014 7:59:23 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: SumProVita
That constitutes an attack, not only on the particular member of the clergy, but on the Church as a whole.

By that logic, those who called the police when clergy perverts molested their sons were "attacking the Church". When the clergy abandon their duty to Christ and attack Him by promoting heresy, the laity must step into the breach.

CCC 900 Since, like all the faithful, lay Christians are entrusted by God with the apostolate by virtue of their Baptism and Confirmation, they have the right and duty, individually or grouped in associations, to work so that the divine message of salvation may be known and accepted by all men throughout the earth. This duty is the more pressing when it is only through them that men can hear the Gospel and know Christ. Their activity in ecclesial communities is so necessary that, for the most part, the apostolate of the pastors cannot be fully effective without it.

10 posted on 11/08/2014 8:04:42 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide

That may be the priest’s and your opinion; but I’m sure glad Sts. Paul, Athanaisus and Catherine of Sienna didn’t share it with y’all.

To quote St. Catherine, “We’ve had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence.”


Excellent reminder.


11 posted on 11/08/2014 8:09:07 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: NKP_Vet
Sure wish Mother Angelica could still talk. She would lower the boom on Francis and the rest of his liberal cabal.

She certainly didn't mince words in regard to Cardinal Mahony.

12 posted on 11/08/2014 8:11:23 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Another one of my Catholic saints.

“I saw them intercepting or turning away the roads that led to the Pope. When they did succeed in getting a Bishop according to their liking, I saw that he had been intruded contrary to the will of the Holy Father; consequently, he possessed no legitimate authority.” - Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich


13 posted on 11/08/2014 8:15:53 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: BlatherNaut

Favorite saints I mean.


14 posted on 11/08/2014 8:38:41 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: NKP_Vet

Interesting.


15 posted on 11/08/2014 8:49:01 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: NKP_Vet
It's interesting to note HOW MANY people, non-Catholics included, are so very interested in Cardinal Burke. WHY?
NOTHING he does really has much/any influence on my daily life. WHY would anyone care?

I saw Cardinals at a Mass at St. Peter's Basilica a LONG time ago and it was a wonderful sight to see. But, I knew that bishops and priests, at our archdiocese level, are the ones in my life...not the RED hats.

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No pope nor ANY cardinal can change SOME things in the Catholic faith. Why would we want it any other way?

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Dogma won't change.

Unmarried priesthood won't change.

Divorce-remarry won't change.

Reasons for annulment won't change.

One man-one woman marriage won't change.

Ban on artificial birth control won't change.

Ban on abortion, for any reason, won't change. [At least SOME institution is protecting our most innocent souls.]

SIN won't become NO SIN, that is, ABSOLUTES will remain ABSOLUTES.

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16 posted on 11/09/2014 8:40:14 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: BlatherNaut

By that logic, those who called the police when clergy perverts molested their sons were “attacking the Church”. When the clergy abandon their duty to Christ and attack Him by promoting heresy, the laity must step into the breach.

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I don’t think anything was illogical. To call the police in the case you describe is according to the legal process. To sit around and only talk about what we think we see taking place among the hierarchy is a gossipy form of attack.

We are not called to simply spread negative gossip....but to use the process available to us through the Church.

May the grace of Christ’s Resurrection be with you in abundance this day! :-)


17 posted on 11/09/2014 10:49:32 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita
To sit around and only talk about what we think we see taking place among the hierarchy is a gossipy form of attack.

It's not "gossip" when it's TRUE. When the good of the Church is threatened by heresy among the clergy, it is nothing short of cowardice to remain silent and scurry away like Christians who are (to quote Pope Francis) “selfish, out for themselves.”

Unfortunately, the "process available through the Church" is inadequate when heresy has invaded the upper tiers of the Church. And frankly, the "process" you refer to is entirely useless when it is administered by those who sympathize with the errors and corruption.

Remember, "all things have their season ...a time to keep silence and a time to speak."

Cardinal Burke has called on Catholics to “speak up and act.”

Dominus vobiscum.

18 posted on 11/09/2014 12:04:39 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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It’s not “gossip” when it’s TRUE.

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That is incorrect. St Thomas Aquinas includes such gossip in his treatise on justice (II, IIae 72-76) in the Summa since, by it, we unjustly harm the reputation of others, through either lies or truths shared inappropriately.


19 posted on 11/09/2014 12:45:29 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: BlatherNaut

Unfortunately, the “process available through the Church” is inadequate when heresy has invaded the upper tiers of the Church.

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Where from the Teaching Magisterium did you research this?


20 posted on 11/09/2014 12:47:14 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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