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On communion for the divorced and remarried, it is already known how the pope thinks. As archbishop of Buenos Aires, he authorized the “curas villeros,” the priests sent to the peripheries, to give communion to all, although four fifths of the couples were not even married. And as pope, by telephone or letter he is not afraid of encouraging some of the faithful who have remarried to receive communion without worrying about it...

Either he does not believe in the Real Presence or he has little time for Paul's words about reception of the sacrament in Ch 11 of 1Corinthians.

1 posted on 10/24/2014 12:25:52 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Let’s ask Pope Honorius I how well his ideas of reform turned out.


2 posted on 10/24/2014 12:41:01 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: marshmallow
I said it a long time ago and I mean it. Best thing that can happen at this point is this POPE DIES. preferably today, tomorrow is good too.
3 posted on 10/24/2014 12:43:08 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: marshmallow
In any case, he will be the one who ultimately decides

Actually, God is the one who ultimately decides. So far, when Popes have gone bad, as they have from time to time, God has reined them in at the times when it really has mattered.

Let us pray that God continues to watch over His Church. Sometimes it seems that Francis is not so much a person of ill intentions as a flake. If so, even flakes can see the light. Or be removed, if that proves necessary.

4 posted on 10/24/2014 12:46:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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“he hammered away every day at the zealots of tradition”

Wow, I hope this isn’t true, but the things he says like “God is not afraid of new things” seems to heavily suggest it is.


5 posted on 10/24/2014 12:55:08 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: marshmallow

Yep. It just comes down to this. Real Presence or not? I’ve been to Mass at St. Peters and I can tell you: it’s the Real Presence! What an experience.


8 posted on 10/24/2014 12:59:32 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: marshmallow
A quick search on my name will show my past posts on the fate of the Catholic church as I see it. I've been saying for several YEARS now that the likes of Pelosi, Kerry, Biden, and the Kennedy's, have been running the Church for decades. The liberal end of the church has been getting away with murder, literally, forever. Liberals from all over the world can put in place abortion mills and laws to protect them on Monday, and take the Eucharist on Sunday. They go on TV with the spot of ashes on their foreheads while defiling the Words of God for the whole world to see.

I would get the expected chides from the usual suspects telling me the gates of hell won't prevail against the church. What church? Which church? The one that rapes alter boys and covers it up? The one that showed up for Ted Kennedy's funeral after his life of murder and debauchery? I know Godly men and this ain't it.

Only a brave few priests ever withheld Eucharist, or even let out a peep. Pelosi visited the pope and stated abortion was Not a settled issue before the sun set that day, and it barely raised a kerfuffle.

The Saint Malachy prophesy has been discussed several times and now I fear it's here. Evangelical Christians have explained to me that in Revelation, Babylon is Rome, The harlot in Babylon was the pope, and the city on 7 hills is Rome. The doctrine of demons mentioned in Timothy is "forbidding to marry". The false prophet was the pope aligning the "new world religion" with the beast.

I have to say, if the new pope changes the stance of the Church to support sodomy, that has to say something to the Church. Many churches have already fallen to support gay marriage trying to keep up with the culture.

Revelation 18: 2--24 is referring to the destruction of the Roman church, according to them, and God has people there that he asks to "come out of her".

The point of this post is, How far will we go before we question what is happening today, as we blog. Not what some paper says from hundreds of years ago, but what is in front of our eyes right now.

In my opinion, we are watching the destruction of Catholicism in front of our very eyes. There is NO WAY to reconcile sodomy with the teaching of the Church. If someone wants to change eating meat on Friday, or what language is spoken in mass, give the reasoning and do it, fine. But sodomy? What can the new pope possibly say that can change thousands of years of doctrine? If the whole Bible is about the marriage of Jesus to His church, how can the church ever support divorce? Considering our stance on birth control, how can we condone abortion? You say "We haven't condoned abortion.", but how do we explain Pelosi, Kerry, Biden, and any Kennedy, still receiving Sacraments from the church?

Like I said, this has been welling up in me for decades. I'm not one to follow the traditions of men, and if we can change our stance on sodomy, something is very wrong in Rome.

13 posted on 10/24/2014 1:47:05 PM PDT by chuckles
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“On communion for the divorced and remarried, it is already known how the pope thinks. As archbishop of Buenos Aires, he authorized the “curas villeros,” the priests sent to the peripheries, to give communion to all, although four fifths of the couples were not even married. And as pope, by telephone or letter he is not afraid of encouraging some of the faithful who have remarried to receive communion without worrying about it”

All the more reason why he should have never been chosen pope and all the more reason why the Catholic Church will lose untold millions of faithful Catholics if this heretic (that’s right I said it) is not removed from the papacy.


15 posted on 10/24/2014 2:13:57 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: marshmallow

it’s worse than that. In poor countries, many women in the slums are deserted by their “husbands”, or their “Common law” husbands, since the church is so compassionate that they no longer insist that marriage is important.

Worse, since there are few jobs for women, it means serial “cohabitation”.

Even worse than that, co habitation often means the man mistreats the step children from the previous man the woman “cohabited” with (many end up as street kids). And, of course, he can leave her at any time.

What is the solution? Well one reason the evangelicals are making so many converts is that they insist on fidelity. So they are improving the slums one family at a time...and women, of course, prefer to marry a man they can rely on.

Cohabitation is not just about sex, but about trust, about child welfare, and about exploitation of those who have little power.

Way to go, bishops.


17 posted on 10/24/2014 6:14:53 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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