[Swordmaker]

Shroud of Turin PING about an Historian claims that the Shroud was made for Easter celebrations in the 14th Century and that there is no evidence of the Shroud before 1355 AD. But there is, including the 11th Century Pray Codex showing the Shroud with the poker holes, which shoots down his entire thesis.

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[alexander_busek]

[...] Historian claims that the Shroud was made for Easter celebrations in the 14th Century and that there is no evidence of the Shroud before 1355 AD. But there is, including the 11th Century Pray Codex showing the Shroud with the poker holes, which shoots down his entire thesis.

Correction: "...showing a shroud.

Regards,

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[BlackVeil]

Thanks for the ping - and what a beautiful graphic you have for the list. Outstanding! I love medieval art.

[ZULU]

The degree of historical and
anatomical accuracy reflected in the shroud was well beyond ANYTHING known to Medieval man. For one thing, the hair style of the image was true to the Time of Christ but never represented as such in any Medit al representation. In all Medieval representations the nails were placed inaturally in the palms. We know now they were placed in the wrists AS THE IMAGE REFLECTS AND the resultant flexure of the thumbs was likewise unknown to Medieval artists.

But most tellingly, the manner of its creation cannot be adequately explained or replicated today.

FINALLY, when any animal bone or vial of dirty water could be presented AND ACCEPTED as a genuine relic, WHY go through the trouble of such creation even if you were capable of it.

The man is an ass.

[mountainbunny]

I have never thought it was the shroud of Christ, due to the fact that it would take it out of the realm of faith and into the realm of fact.

I have some relics of saints in my possession (the Curé d’Ars & Elizabeth Ann Seton among them), and I feel like their keeper. I do meditate on them, and pray, but they are different than relics of Christ himself. His existence as part of the Holy Trinity is a matter solely of faith.

We are to rely on faith, not things. As a Catholic, I rely on my faith.