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Hell’s Bible’s editorial on the Synod
WDTPRS.org ^ | 10-18-14 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 10/18/2014 11:09:54 AM PDT by Salvation

Hell’s Bible’s editorial on the Synod

Posted on by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

At Hell’s Bible we find an editorial:

Pope Francis Walks the Talk
Vatican Signals on Gays and Remarriage Are a Hopeful Beginning

A half-century after the historic changes of the Second Vatican Council, Pope Francis is showing his intent to drive a comparably ambitious agenda for the Roman Catholic Church in the 21st century.

The current synod of bishops in Rome, called by Francis to encourage reform and modernization, [ahhh... that's why he called it!] set a ringing tone of compassion this week with an opening call for a more welcoming attitude toward gay people, unmarried couples, divorced Catholics who remarry, and children in these unions.  [See my earlier post about what the MSM was going to do next.  HERE  Did I call it?]

The bishops’ report on their first week of private discussions did not immediately change church doctrine.  [Not immediately... but there's hope!  As long as Francis the Hopepful, the most wonderfullest Pope evhur, the first Pope ever to smile or kiss a baby can fend off those hate-filled, close-minded mouth-breathing conservatives!] But it signaled the pope’s determination to have the church look anew at the realities of the modern world, [How revolutionary.  John Paul and Benedict never considered the modern world as it is.  Nope.  Never.  What was that phrase, again? "Dictatorship of Relativism"?] including what the bishops [No!  Archbp. Forte, not "the bishops"] were moved to call the “positive aspects of civil unions and cohabitation” — a formulation unthinkable in an era when the church denounced such Catholics as “living in sin.[But doesn't now.  So, you would think that now the NYT is a fan of the Church.  Right?]

The synod’s summary language about gays and lesbians was even more remarkable.

Blech.

Moderation is ON.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; synod
Quite interesting! Fr. Z's words in red.
1 posted on 10/18/2014 11:09:54 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Catholic Ping!


2 posted on 10/18/2014 11:12:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I thought The Times was more like L’Osservatore Romano for the Lowerarchy.


3 posted on 10/18/2014 1:08:06 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Catholic doctrine and discipline may be walls; but they are the walls of a playground."--GKC)
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To: Salvation

You just can’t win...this synod was a USUAL discussion ON CURRENT ISSUES THAT CATHOLICS FACE...cultural and otherwise.

Basic church doctrine will not change...

So for the Catholic Bashers its MSM field day: (Take your pick)

1) Discussion of current issues—, homosexuality, birth control, divorce= OH, THE CHURCH IS CHANGING, THIS POPE IS NOT A REAL CATHOLIC!

2) No open discussion-—THE CHURCH IS A PATRIARCHIAL ELITE CLOSED SYSTEM INATTENTIVE TO THE QUESTIONS OF ITS FLOCKS


4 posted on 10/18/2014 1:08:09 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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To: Salvation

Words of the document. It does not condone the sin of homosexuality.

50. Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a Church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?

51. The question of homosexuality leads to a serious reflection on how to elaborate realistic paths of affective growth and human and evangelical maturity integrating the sexual dimension: it appears therefore as an important educative challenge. The Church furthermore affirms that unions between people of the same sex cannot be considered on the same footing as matrimony between man and woman. Nor is it acceptable that pressure be brought to bear on pastors or that international bodies make financial aid dependent on the introduction of regulations inspired by gender ideology.

52. Without denying the moral problems connected to homosexual unions it has to be noted that there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of the partners. Furthermore, the Church pays special attention to the children who live with couples of the same sex, emphasizing that the needs and rights of the little ones must always be given priority.


5 posted on 10/18/2014 1:13:42 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

THANK YOU!!!


6 posted on 10/18/2014 2:01:31 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: free_life

This is not the final document.


7 posted on 10/18/2014 2:26:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: free_life

Go here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3216879/posts


8 posted on 10/18/2014 2:27:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

:) So glad he can keep his sense of humor.


9 posted on 10/18/2014 2:41:28 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Salvation

When linking to a blog, don’t just link to the blog. Link to the particular POST.


10 posted on 10/18/2014 2:55:36 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Salvation
This is not the final document.

Yes I know. All the hullabaloo is over something that will not even happen.

BTW, I like Pope Francis, best Pope in my lifetime....and no I don't support gay marriage any more than support Priests not being able to marry and the evil of both. G_d-ay!

11 posted on 10/18/2014 3:54:01 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

YEP!


12 posted on 10/18/2014 6:09:35 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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