Posted on 10/13/2014 12:56:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
I think you mean the Eastern Catholic Churches. The Eastern Orthodox churches have already abandoned Jesus’ teachings regarding marriage.
Church Militant’s take on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgVlbQp-IhQ&feature=youtu.be
That's precisely why it was written and released.
What you’re saying is that this will put the Church into full schism.
+1
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.
I fear it very well may do precisely that.
There are no clearer words in Scripture than those of Our Lord about marriage. This is the where the lines are being drawn and everyone will have to choose sides very soon. Whatever happens, I know what side I’m on... The side that will be faithful to the Lord’s words.
Me too. I go to a pretty traditional parish, but I don’t know what this is going to do. It’s just causing a lot of uncertainty. I’m certain, however, that we’re all tiring of the 2 headed messaging from the Vatican.
jump to conclusions much???
the chance of that falls somewhere between "0" and none....it hasn't happened in 2,014 years and it isn't about to happen now...
There seems to be a LOT of that, doesn’t there?
(sigh)
Perhaps it’s a test to see how much TRUST in God we really have? Hmmmmmmm... A good examination of conscience is in order for us all.
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!
There’s always a first time for everything. The Pope didn’t lose his free will on being elected Pope and is as capable of apostasizing as anyone. If he does, we have to be ready for the fallout.
Ummmm suuuuure. Don’t forget to take your meds this morning.
Cardinal Burke and the other cardinals who have written a book on the defense of traditional marriage as taught by the Church. It will be released around the first of November. Pray for Cardinal Burke. I believe he is the leader of the opposition and is definitely the defender of truth. He is a very humble and holy man who is not afraid to be clear on the teachings of Jesus. After their book comes out, we will definitely see the battle lines being drawn. If he gets demoted, as has been rumored, we will know for sure how things stand. Jesus said we would be persecuted if we follow Him. We’ve known about the wolves in Shepherd’s clothing for a long time. It’s just strange to see them being so bold. But it was all predicted by Our Lady of Fatima.
It’s well known that the Orthodox churches already permit divorced people who have not received an annulment to remarry in the Church. That is how they’ve abandoned the Lord’s teaching regarding marriage.
Perhaps you should look into that a little before posting snide comments.
I used to be roman catholic. I meant my original post in good humor.
But if you wish to cast stones, the hilarity of the so-called annulment process in the RC Church isn’t just an affront to marriage as a sacrament, but seems a lie to God. How many annulments did your church give Ted Kennedy? 5? 6? You lie to yourselves and make bastards of innocent children from VALID marriages and draw halos on your heads, hiding behind your self-made canon law.
Getting divorced and remarried in the Serbian Orthodox Church is not easy as you seem to think. The participants are excommunicated for a year in the service itself,no crowning takes place and the readings are about death, sin and potential forgiveness. That is IF the hierarchs allow it. If children are affected it becomes much more difficult.
Yes, Greeks allow much, but that is due to the amount of Latinization their hierarchs have imposed. They took their lax cue from your church.
Divorce is not good. St. Epiphanius in the 5th Century discussed divorce, which matches the current position of Orthodox Church. It is tolerated and has been so since the beginning of Christian records.
But then I’m the one who talked without knowing anything.
The Pope can hold a personal opinion that is in error, but so long as it is on a matter that does not touch on doctrine and morals, or if it is, so long as he does not attempt to invoke the authority of his office to declare it to be true, he is simply wrong. No canonical process is required.
As for the situation in which the pope attempts to use his authority to declare as true something that is clearly contrary to doctrine and morals, he would have fallen into heresy and apostasy, and would have deposed himself.
I don’t know how recognition of this situation would work in practice, and probably not even the most learned of canonists would either, because the Church has never been faced with this event.
Some say that the Holy Spirit would prevent the Pope from abusing the charism of his office in this way, but this is to retreat into a pious truism without addressing the question.
There are cases in the past of a Pope being tried for heresy (often by another Pope), and a few where the College in Paris was called in to settle some things.
However, that was a long time ago.
I ask not to throw mud, but because having see such things in other church bodies, I hope that Catholics have a plan.
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