Posted on 10/10/2014 6:21:31 AM PDT by marshmallow
In an exclusive interview with LifeSiteNews, Cardinal Raymond Burke has responded to a controversial presentation by an Australian couple before 191 of the Catholic Church’s leading bishops and cardinals at the ongoing Extraordinary Synod on the Family this week.
During their intervention, which has turned out to be one of the most widely reported interventions at the Synod, the Priolas asked and answered a question about what parents should do in the case where their son wants to bring his homosexual partner to a Christmas dinner where their grandchildren will be present.
The Pirolas’ response, which they held up as a model for the manner in which the Catholic Church should deal with same-sex relationships, was that parents should accept the participation of the son and his homosexual partner knowing “their grandchildren would see them welcome the son and his partner into the family.”
Westminster Cardinal Vincent Nichols revealed afterwards that some Synod fathers responded to the short intervention by the couple “very warmly, with applause.”
Speaking to LifeSiteNews on a short break from the Synod yesterday, Cardinal Burke, the Prefect of the Vatican's Apostolic Signitura, called the Pirolas’ question a ‘delicate’ question that needs to be addressed in a “calm, serene, reasonable and faith-filled manner.”
“If homosexual relations are intrinsically disordered, which indeed they are — reason teaches us that and also our faith — then, what would it mean to grandchildren to have present at a family gathering a family member who is living [in] a disordered relationship with another person?” asked the cardinal.
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If nothing else, this Synod is certainly helping to sort out the wheat from the tares.
This defies rational thought, why not also bring the drug addict rapist pedophile for diner too.
-— the Priolas asked and answered a question about what parents should do in the case where their son wants to bring his homosexual partner to a Christmas dinner where their grandchildren will be present. -—
This is a pastoral question. It seems out of place, unless someone is trying to score propaganda points, or getting the camel’s nose into the tent.
What do you do? Everyone agrees it's a complicated thing. I think if it were my kid it would depend. Do the kid and the grand kids see each other all the time or is this a just holidays sort of arrangement?
If it's JUST Christmas dinner I would let homosexual son bring friend to dinner with the explicit instructions that they act like two platonic friends in front of my grandchildren. No hugging, handholding, kissing, sitting to close on the couch etc.
If they all live nearby the grand kids probably already know he's gay and maybe he and his friend should make other arrangements for dinner.
I think your answer is appropriate.
Further, I would always welcome my child, at a minimum, as an opportunity to demonstrate love, encourage a proper lifestyle, and provide support and guidance to lead a better life.
Now, there would have to be rules. For example, a child struggling with addiction is welcome, just no using immediately before, or during the event. And like you said, keep your hands to yourself.
I think your answer is a reasonable one. They seem to be embracing homosexuality in some of the local Churches. I don’t ever hear any criticism of it as a lifestyle, just the opposite.
Jesus ministered to those considered most sinful, but He told them “sin no more”.
These are the type of amoral people who would welcome their son who left his wife and children into their life with no condemnation of his behavior too.
Same in the Church.
Thanks, I don’t think any parent ever gives up on their kid, nor should they have to.
You don’t give up on your kids, but you also don’t give in to their harmful and self-indulgent behavior. Gay children should not be made comfortable in their open, willful, harmful, and sinful activity. They want “normal” family time while indulging in unnatural and abnormal behavior - all the while demanding their family remain silent and while warping the minds of young family members. Too many parents coddle and give comfort to their spoiled and narcissistic children thus further the child’s self-destruction. Sometimes, the best way to show a child you care is to refuse their immediate wants.
It's important to let them know that you don't condone their behavior, but you still love them. If you set up the stop being gay or I won't love you anymore scenario, the kid is lost to you forever and even more destruction is on the way.
Now instead of the tough love parent you become the reason for the behavior in the young person's mind. That's not fair to you as a parent. You should not have to be made the cause of their disorder. It's not an easy thing for anyone.
What is more or at least as frighting to me is how will gay "parents" react to children who grow up straight and reject their "relationship". Get ready for that.
That being said this is one sick and twisted world we are living in and I don't envy anyone trying to raise kids in this environment.
35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’;
36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’
37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
No, I read your prior posts and am afraid you are giving bad advice. Sometimes “loving” your child is harder than making them “feel loved”. Don’t coddle your gay children at the expense of other, innocent, family members.
Little kids are far more perceptive then most people give them credit for. Like I said if the kid and grand kids are in a close proximity to each other on a regular basis. Chances are the grand kids already know that the aunt or uncle is not quite right whether they know how to express it or not.
Of course if it's you kid you can proceed the way you see fit. I said how I would most likely handle it. I don't like to make something more of a "thing" then is necessary. Some people build up in their mind what another reaction is going to be. When that expectation is not realized, things become different.
The grandkids may also know their other uncle is cheating on their aunt. Would you then have the uncle and his mistress for Christmas dinner? That would send the wrong message to all parties. Why are people so willing to make children and grandchildren uncomfortable to satisfy the emotional needs of the gay child who has chosen to rebel against God, society, and family. All the while, the gay child expects all participants to violate their conscience and remain silent in the face of willful and unrepentant sin. Spare the rod, spoil the child.
I give up. OK?
If the person was brought along as a friend and not as an obvious part of a couple I could see allowing it. But if the point was to parade it and make a point of their relationship, then no. Children or not. If that was not agreeable to the son then Denny’s is open on Thanksgiving and he and his partner can have dinner there.
By the way Burke is a member of the Synod on the family. Wouldn’t it be great if he were Pope.
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