Posted on 09/08/2014 4:43:56 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
The latest to call for a radical change in the Church's practice and doctrine on marriage is the Belgian bishop of Antwerp, Johan Jozef Bonny.
He did so in early September with a thirty-page memorandum in multiple languages, which he also sent to Pope Francis.
Because the presumed support of Jorge Mario Bergoglio is inevitably part of the arguments of the cardinals, bishops, and theologians who are calling for the change, which would mean granting Eucharistic communion to the divorced and remarried: a key argument of the synod of bishops on the family set to have its first session in Rome this October.
Pope Francis has never said explicitly what his position is in the dispute - to which he intentionally gave free rein - between the proponents and opponents of the change.
When, for example, he defended in strong words the encyclical of Paul VI "Humanae Vitae," he disappointed the innovators, who see that very encyclical as an emblem of the disastrous detachment of the magisterium of the Church from the spirit of the times and the practice of the faithful themselves.
But on the contrary there are are increasingly numerous testimonies on how Bergoglio, as an archbishop, encouraged his priests to give communion to the cohabiting and remarried. He himself, as pope, spoke by telephone last April with a civilly divorced and remarried woman of Buenos Aires and advised her to “go receive communion in another parish if her pastor did not give it to her.” This according to the woman's account, which has not been refuted.
(Excerpt) Read more at chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it ...
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This will be interesting to follow as it is something the laity are often discussing.
If it was a legitimate divorce, yes.
No, it won’t happen.
As long as the divorced person does not remarry, they can receive the Sacraments.
They are correct to make this call.
“As long as the divorced person does not remarry”
Haven’t you noticed? There is no such thing a marriage outside of the church anymore. For goodness sake... It includes same sex marriages.
He's the Pope, the Vicar of Christ. He has the authority and power to quash this discussion of allowing adulterers, already in a state of mortal sin, to receive Holy Communion, another mortal sin for both the adulterer, and he who gives the Holy Eucharist to him.
His falsely "humble" practice of only calling himself, Bishop of Rome, and his reference (to paraphrase), "if the Othodox are doing it, why can't we" is very disturbing.
He needs to renounce his office for the sake of the Church.
It has already happened.
An adulteress woman in Argentina has made worldwide news, claiming Pope Francis personally called her and told her to find another church, where no one knew of her marital infidelity, and to receive Holy Communion.
The Vatican has admitted that the Pope did call this woman, yet the Vatican has not denied her version of the content of that phone call.
Anybody know the actual date of the Synod?
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October 5-19
We have to endure two weeks of this? Lord, have mercy.
One of those weird rare issues where many conservative Protestant Christians and all liberal Catholics will agree with each other. Acceptance of birth control within marriage and the value of the discipline of celibacy are two more.
Freegards
A large group of them will be in the same place, at the same time, contemplating the approval of mortal sin.
I would advise you to stay far, far away from Rome during that time period. Sodom and Gomorrah comes to mind.
The sad part is that many divorced Catholics have a valid grounds for annuling failed marriages: poor or lazy teaching and learning of Catholic doctrine, as youth and in pre-Cana, means most marry without knowing what they’re doing, thus invalidating the sacrament. (Broad generalities here.)
We can pray that the Church is focusing on renewing that teaching.
It’s doing plenty of forgiving through an extensive annulment process. We can pray that in each case it’s being wise and fair and faithful to Tradition and Scripture.
The above is not just a broad generality; it's a lie.
ebb tide, I guess I’m still closer to you than ReaganGeneration2 on annulments, but more and more I see his point. Many Catholics have received incredibly poor catechisis not only on marriage but on the entire Catholic faith. I started 16 years of Catholic schooling in 1970, but largely had to learn the faith after college.
One priest Scripture teacher in high school would give some innovative teachings. I would repeat these teachings at the dinner table and my Dad would look at my Mom and say, “Father said what?!”
adulteress?
You really believe her side of the story? LOL!
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