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Is James Foley a Martyr? A Brutal Death Sparks a Faith-Based Debate
Religion News Service ^
| 8/26/14
| David Gibson
Posted on 08/27/2014 11:27:18 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I like the way the rest of the world knows how to deal with barbarians like muslims.
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posted on
08/27/2014 3:21:46 PM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: redleghunter
That last Bible verse is interesting indeed. Were beheadings commonplace at the time of the early Church?
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posted on
08/27/2014 3:28:28 PM PDT
by
piusv
To: piusv
Christian tradition records (not the Bible) that the apostle Paul was beheaded instead of crucified or fed to wild beasts. Paul was a Roman citizen and beheading was the capital punishment for citizens of Rome.
I would focus on reason of the beheading rather than the execution technique.
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posted on
08/27/2014 3:51:36 PM PDT
by
redleghunter
(But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
To: piusv
I did not know you could ‘ignore’ users on FR. Is this a new function?
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posted on
08/27/2014 3:52:30 PM PDT
by
redleghunter
(But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
To: redleghunter
45
posted on
08/27/2014 3:52:49 PM PDT
by
piusv
To: redleghunter
No, there is no function. But I’m pretty good at mentally ignoring posters when I get to a certain point.
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posted on
08/27/2014 3:53:49 PM PDT
by
piusv
To: metmom
Good psychological operations there metmom:)
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posted on
08/27/2014 3:55:02 PM PDT
by
redleghunter
(But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
To: Arm_Bears; piusv; Salvation
James Foley was baptized, received first communion, and was confirmed at our church. I knew the Foleys before Dr. John moved to Dover but I did not know Jim.
Those who grew up with him say he was devout. He was on video saying the Rosary during his earlier captivity in Libya.
I personally have no doubt that he did not renounce Christ (or we would know). I personally have no doubt that he was selected from among the other prisoners because he was a Christian.
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posted on
08/27/2014 4:00:35 PM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
To: vladimir998
Being a martyr will get you to Heaven.Maybe according to your religion's tradition but not in God's Christianity...
Only born again Christians go to heaven whether a martyr or not...
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posted on
08/27/2014 4:39:06 PM PDT
by
Iscool
To: marshmallow
Foley came to Syria to support the Sunni Islamist rebels against the Syrian government. He cheered on the Sunni Muslim terrorists fighting to ethnically cleanse the Christians of Aleppo. In the conflict between Israel and Hamas, his tweets and retweets were chock full of pro-terrorist propaganda.James Foley Went Looking to Support Terrorists in Syria, Instead They Cut Off His Head
And now you want to make him a martyr? Why not a saint?
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posted on
08/27/2014 4:51:16 PM PDT
by
HarleyD
("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
To: Iscool
Martyr is a Greek word for Witness. According to your logic - as stated in your last post to me - you don’t believe someone who witnesses to Christ figures into “God’s Christianity”.
The idiocy expressed by anti-Catholics in their desperation to deny almost any truth expressed by almost any Catholic about doctrine is sometimes breathtaking.
To: marshmallow
Certainly hope Foley died a saint [if he's not a martyr, who would be?], and enjoyed reading Foley's quote from the article he wrote which is linked in your post:
"I began to pray the rosary. It was what my mother and grandmother would have prayed. I said 10 Hail Marys between each Our Father. It took a long time, almost an hour to count 100 Hail Marys off on my knuckles. And it helped to keep my mind focused." - Foley's account during his Libyan imprisonment
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posted on
08/27/2014 7:04:43 PM PDT
by
mlizzy
("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
To: vladimir998
Martyr is a Greek word for Witness. According to your logic - as stated in your last post to me - you dont believe someone who witnesses to Christ figures into Gods Christianity.Bible tells us that not all who witness to Christ are Christians...So again, I agree with God and not your tradition...
If one is a not a born again Christians and he witnesses to Christ a dozen times a day, he still won't make it to heaven...
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posted on
08/27/2014 7:13:33 PM PDT
by
Iscool
To: marshmallow
How long does it take to become a saint? Does it cost anything?
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posted on
08/27/2014 7:14:58 PM PDT
by
Tau Food
(Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
To: marshmallow
He was an Islamist (dupe) and an anti-Semite. And he cheered the persecution of Christians in Syria.
To: vladimir998
If a person in the state of mortal sin is threatened with death unless he denies the Faith, and he refuses to do so, then he is no longer in the state of mortal sin.
To: Arthur McGowan
I believe that God is mercifully generous with all those who die for belief in Him.
To: Cowboy Bob
How was Gadaffi “martyred?” How do you define “martyred?”
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posted on
08/27/2014 8:32:26 PM PDT
by
EDINVA
To: vladimir998
If he was told he was going to be killed because he was a Christian, and he refused to renounce his Christian faith, then he was a martyr.
I was pointing out that he was not someone who should be lionized for his reporting.
To: Arthur McGowan
Church teaching on this please?
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posted on
08/28/2014 2:17:54 AM PDT
by
piusv
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