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California May Force Catholic Universities to Pay for Abortions
life news ^ | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 08/12/2014 7:07:58 PM PDT by Morgana

Two California Catholic universities–Santa Clara and Loyola–want not to cover “elective” abortion in their health insurance policies.

That won’t do! After first giving its OK, California may now try to force them. From the San Francisco Chronicle story.

The state Department of Managed Health Care is conducting “an in-depth analysis of the issues surrounding coverage for abortion services under California law,” said Marta Green, the department’s chief deputy director.

What the department is reconsidering, as first reported by California Lawyer magazine, is whether the universities are violating a 1975 state law that requires managed health plans to cover all “medically necessary” procedures. Until the current controversy arose, insurers in California had treated all abortions sought by women in their health plans as medically necessary.

californiaThe term “medically necessary” is one used in insurance to determine whether a procedure is covered. It is not the same as elective vs. non-elective procedures.

Still, it is hard to see how abortions are truly medically necessary. Here is the definition:

A. Appropriate for the symptoms and diagnosis or treatment of a condition, illness or injury.

B. Provides for the diagnosis or direct care and treatment of the condition, illness or injury.

C. In accordance with the standards of good medical practice in the service area.

D. Not primarily for the convenience of a plan member or a plan provider.

E. The most appropriate level or type of service or supply that can safely be provided to the plan member.

Most abortions actually fall under D–for convenience.

Insurance companies can treat abortion as medically necessary if they so choose–no doubt because it is cheaper for them than paying for a pregnancy and beyond.

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But that isn’t the issue. The question is whether the state should force all abortions to be deemed medically necessary, and hence, mandate all insurance plans to cover every abortion.

For the universities, this is a religious issue:

Leaders of both universities said they were driven by religious principles. “Our core commitments as a Catholic university are incompatible with the inclusion of elective abortion in the university’s health plans, Engh’s office said in a statement.

So what? Conscience on issues such as abortion cannot be allowed.

Do you see how abortion–like slavery did in the 19th century–corrupts everything it touches?


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; democrats; prolife

1 posted on 08/12/2014 7:07:58 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Say goodbye to your religious rights america.


2 posted on 08/12/2014 7:10:01 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: Morgana

take those endowments and go elsewhere

if they have some out of state campuses, it might not be that hard to leave the Peoples Republic behind


3 posted on 08/12/2014 7:10:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Morgana

Liberals are all for freedom of choice - as long as you choose they way they want.


4 posted on 08/12/2014 7:11:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Morgana

If they are Catholic colleges, they will relocate out of state before doing that.
If not, they are no longer Catholic.


5 posted on 08/12/2014 7:12:32 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Morgana

The Church no longer has Freedom of Religion. Liberals, who claim to give liberties and justice, and taking away liberties and justice and forcing their beliefs and values on the Church. We are no longer a free nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw


6 posted on 08/12/2014 7:14:56 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Morgana
So in other words, the state will force organizations to kill people. How is this different form the Hitler regime?
7 posted on 08/12/2014 7:14:58 PM PDT by Fungi (Read this post only if you are willing to accept the following: John:8:32.)
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To: Morgana

8 posted on 08/12/2014 7:19:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Morgana

As long as neither school is taking state funds - and one assumes as private universities, they are not - they should have the right to tell California, Ms. Green, and Jerry Brown to go pound sand.

Whether that’s how this plays out, though, might well be another matter.


9 posted on 08/12/2014 7:22:33 PM PDT by DemforBush (Six o'clock in *Berlin*. They were having lunch in Cleveland.)
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To: LtKerst

Refuse to comply. Churches in general have to grow a set.


10 posted on 08/12/2014 7:26:27 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Morgana

I’d like a hair transplant, a nose job and skin resurfacing.

Those are medical necessities.


11 posted on 08/12/2014 7:26:34 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Morgana

Wasn’t this issue just decided by the Supreme Court in Hobby Lobby?


12 posted on 08/12/2014 7:27:59 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: ex91B10
Refuse to comply. Churches in general have to grow a set.

Yes they do. And in this case it starts by being willing to tell the state of California to go to hell.

13 posted on 08/12/2014 7:31:03 PM PDT by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment?)
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To: Marathoner

And in this case it starts by being willing to tell the state of California to go to hell.

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I would rather see them tell the state, “NO, we refuse to commit sins that will send us to hell.”


14 posted on 08/12/2014 7:38:52 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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15 posted on 08/12/2014 7:42:37 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: DemforBush

Santa Clara and Loyola are both Jesuit schools.

Gov. Brown spent three years in a Jesuit novitiate after high school.


16 posted on 08/12/2014 7:58:58 PM PDT by gasport (President Omoeba needs to evolve a spine)
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To: Morgana

Don’t take the federal and/or state money. You will make it as a university.....they can’t force you to do this if you aren’t taking their $$.


17 posted on 08/12/2014 9:04:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

This is where the attorneys get richer.


18 posted on 08/12/2014 9:11:48 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Morgana

There are a bunch of Catholic Universities in California. How come only two of them have an issue with this?


19 posted on 08/13/2014 12:35:02 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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