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One of the poorest, most atheistic places in Europe, Albania is a natural destination for Francis
Catholic Herald ^ | June 16, 2014 | FR ALEXANDER LUCIE-SMITH

Posted on 06/16/2014 3:03:48 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 06/16/2014 3:03:48 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/16/2014 3:04:22 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Albania is also the most Muslim place in Europe.


3 posted on 06/16/2014 3:14:11 PM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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Given the inherently expensive nature of the Pope traveling abroad, it seems to me that it would be a well-received symbolic gesture to provide “simple food” to those who came to attend.

His advance team would, for example, bring tons of flour and other ingredients to make a very large amount of bread, made by local bakers paid to do so. Not expensive at all, compared to other expenses.

The symbolism involved is not just the body, but also in the idea of abundance flowing therefrom. That faith brings prosperity and community.


4 posted on 06/16/2014 3:23:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: NYer
MOTHER THERESA was from Albania.
Imagine, a super-commie country produced a real-live saint with Mother Theresa, born Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu.
Her first mission in Calcutta was to gather up the DYING, those DYING, totally neglected, abandoned and DISCARDED into the streets of Calcutta ... and allow them DIE in dignity, inside, in bed, cared for and loved by Mother Theresa. The stories about her work made me WEEP with pity for those poor souls.

Mother Theresa DID get much FLACK from those who thought it was someone's karma to die that way. SO not a Christian country.

From the Internet:
The Blessed Teresa of Calcutta, M.C., commonly known as Mother Teresa (26 August 1910 – 5 September 1997), was a Roman Catholic Religious Sister and missionary of Albanian origin who lived for most of her life in India.

Mother Teresa founded the Missionaries of Charity, a Roman Catholic religious congregation, which in 2012 consisted of over 4,500 sisters and is active in 133 countries.
They run hospices and homes for people with HIV/AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis; soup kitchens; dispensaries and mobile clinics; children's and family counseling programs; orphanages; and schools.
Members of the order must adhere to the vows of chastity, poverty and obedience, and the fourth vow, to give "wholehearted free service to the poorest of the poor".

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The "blessed" part means that eventually she will be SAINT Theresa of Albania. Hah, it would be Albania's first and only saint...but what a saint.

5 posted on 06/16/2014 3:52:39 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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“Imagine, a super-commie country produced a real-live saint with Mother Theresa, born Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu.”

Of course she was already 35 when Albania turned communist. And she left the country 17 years before that.


6 posted on 06/16/2014 4:19:53 PM PDT by vladimir998
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Of course she was already 35 when Albania turned communist. And she left the country 17 years before that.

Thank you.
I was reading her biography on-line and that wasn't mentioned. Of course, she was a nun and by that very calling she was helping people, wasn't she?

7 posted on 06/16/2014 4:22:35 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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Mother Teresa was ethnic Albanian, but born in Skopje, now the capital of the Republic of Macedonia. Her parents were apparently born in Kosovo. It doesn’t look like she ever lived in Albania.


8 posted on 06/16/2014 4:55:08 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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WOW Pope going to Albanina????


9 posted on 06/16/2014 4:56:21 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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From the Internet:

An ethnic Albanian born Anjezë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu (Albanian: [aˈɲɛz ˈɡɔɲdʒe bɔjaˈdʒiu]) (gonxha meaning "rosebud" or "little flower" in Albanian) on 26 August 1910, she considered 27 August, the day she was baptized, to be her "true birthday". Her birthplace of Skopje, now capital of the Republic of Macedonia, was at the time part of the Ottoman Empire.

She was the youngest of the children of Nikollë and Dranafile Bojaxhiu (Bernai). Her father, who was involved in Albanian politics, died in 1919 when she was eight years old After her father's death, her mother reared her as a Roman Catholic. Her father may have been from Prizren, Kosovo while her mother may have been from a village near Yakova.
According to a biography written by Joan Graff Clucas, in her early years Agnes was fascinated by stories of the lives of missionaries and their service in Bengal, and by age 12 had become convinced that she should commit herself to a religious life.
Her final resolution was taken on 15 August 1928, while praying at the shrine of the Black Madonna of Letnice, where she often went on pilgrimage.
She left home at age 18 to join the Sisters of Loreto as a missionary. She never again saw her mother or sister.
Agnes initially went to the Loreto Abbey in Rathfarnham, Ireland, to learn English, the language the Sisters of Loreto used to teach school children in India. She arrived in India in 1929, and began her novitiate in Darjeeling, near the Himalayan mountains, where she learned Bengali and taught at the St. Teresa's School, a schoolhouse close to her convent.
She took her first religious vows as a nun on 24 May 1931. At that time she chose to be named after Thérèse de Lisieux, the patron saint of missionaries, but because one nun in the convent had already chosen that name, Agnes opted for the Spanish spelling Teresa.
She took her solemn vows on 14 May 1937, while serving as a teacher at the Loreto convent school in Entally, eastern Calcutta. Teresa served there for almost twenty years and in 1944 was appointed headmistress.
Although Teresa enjoyed teaching at the school, she was increasingly disturbed by the poverty surrounding her in Calcutta (Kolkata). The Bengal famine of 1943 brought misery and death to the city; and the outbreak of Hindu/Muslim violence in August 1946 plunged the city into despair and horror.

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Whenever I read about Mother Teresa ALBANIA is used in her biography. THAT is why I do it.

10 posted on 06/16/2014 5:07:11 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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One of the members of our parish is an Indian and he gave me some great insight into their culture. As a Catholic, he believed that all souls were equal in God’s eyes which in practice leads to a much different society than exists now in India. Since the people’s condition there were a result of Karma, no one would work for change. He said ideas and beliefs do have meaning for how we live our lives.


11 posted on 06/16/2014 6:26:30 PM PDT by Shark24
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Albania is also the most Muslim place in Europe.

Actually, that was the one silver lining of Hoxha's rule, is he destroyed Islam there. In fact, most Albanians fear the Kosovars, because under Tito, there was no such repression of Islam, and they fear they will eventually try to impose Islam on Albania proper.

12 posted on 06/16/2014 6:29:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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One of the members of our parish is an Indian and he gave me some great insight into their culture. As a Catholic, he believed that all souls were equal in God’s eyes which in practice leads to a much different society than exists now in India. Since the people’s condition there were a result of Karma, no one would work for change. He said ideas and beliefs do have meaning for how we live our lives.

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Your Indian parishioner is correct.
India DID do away with caste a while back but it had been an INTEGRAL part of India too long and caste survives.

India also has hundreds of millions of "faces" of God (human, animal, objects, creatures, you name it) and that is the antithesis of Christianity...Judaism and Islam too for that matter.

There ARE Catholics there in India and many men are named THOMAS after Jesus' "doubting Thomas" Apostle who went all the way to India in his missionary zeal.

When my husband and I worked for ARAMCO way back, we saw those Indian Catholics there working for Saudi Aramco, a few Thomas-named Catholic men as well.

13 posted on 06/16/2014 8:04:07 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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How about taking two minutes to call Donald Wuerl, and telling him to do his job?

How about calling Nancy Pelosi, and telling her to...warning her that she’s going to Hell?


14 posted on 06/16/2014 9:07:20 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Hang in there, look for Donald Wuerl down the road to hand his walking papers in, and retire.


15 posted on 06/17/2014 3:09:43 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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It’s something like 18 months until his 75th birthday.


16 posted on 06/17/2014 8:21:32 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Resist We Much!


17 posted on 06/17/2014 8:23:17 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Shark24

We have an Indian priest in our diocese. He got a kick out of Americans, who would ask, “How long has your family been Catholic?” He would say, “Since St. Thomas!”


18 posted on 06/17/2014 8:24:58 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Well, it is not that far away, hang in there!


19 posted on 06/17/2014 8:32:04 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Arthur McGowan

That is living history!


20 posted on 06/17/2014 8:33:01 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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