Also, I sometimes reflect on how carnal minds got carnal. I believe it truly was through consensually sharing the experience with Adam and Eve, on some pre-incarnate plane that the bible doesn’t spell out, and doesn’t need to. Maybe if it did, we’d get all lost in mysticism trying to figure it out ourselves. Anyhow, we’ve bowed to evil, brutal spirits that make illusory boasts against the Lord that they can never make lasting. The way it plays out in this world, we call it carnal. The question God has offered us now is whether to allow Him to rid us of their dominion, and the process for that involves suffering. But He, too, suffers, and heroically at that. God isn’t aloof from any one of us; it’s a matter of each of us being more or less blind.
Carnal is viewing all things from a “this world” perspective. Christ said we live in the spirit. Christians should be “spiritually minded” as Paul said rather than “carnally minded” meaning we view things from a spiritual perspective rather then a physical “this world” perspective.