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California Baptist Church Changes Views On Homosexuality After Pastor's Gay Son Comes Out
The Huffington Post ^ | 6-2-2014 | Antonia Blumberg

Posted on 06/02/2014 5:30:06 PM PDT by wonkowasright

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To: ReformationFan

Actualy, and surprisingly, the sbc has started allowing women head pastors. Not formally just quietly. I discovered this a couple years ago when the sbc threw out a church for having a gay man in a leadership role but theyd had a woman for a long time.

Here is a good list a couple years ago taken from sbc official roster

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2973661/posts


41 posted on 06/02/2014 6:39:03 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Yes, that was a very discouraging story about the VA chapels.

There is a scandal daily with this Administration—it is the Cloward-Piven strategy applied on a social level.

And it is fundamentally transforming America.


42 posted on 06/02/2014 6:42:27 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The problem is, more and more people are believing that sodomy is not a sin.


43 posted on 06/02/2014 6:43:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ransomed

Exactly. “No female pastors but homosexuality is OK” would definitely be unique to put it mildly.

Also, “you can have all the gay sex you want to but don’t you dare baptize a baby!” makes for strange theology as well.

And let’s not forget pro-abortion Baptists: “kill the baby but don’t you even of think of baptizing it!”

In fairness, I think a lot of folks(mainly libs) operate on emotion only and never think through the logical consequences and implications of their ideas.


44 posted on 06/02/2014 6:58:10 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: wonkowasright

But are these pro-female ordination churches affiliated in good standing with the SBC?

Quite frankly, one of the reasons I left the SBC(despite many great things about it and wonderful people in it) was that I couldn’t quite see how a congregationalist denomination could properly discipline erring member churches. Since each church is autonomous, it’s pretty much free to do what it wants and in that case, why not just be a non-denominational church instead?


45 posted on 06/02/2014 7:04:30 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Theophilus

Good for them.


46 posted on 06/02/2014 7:04:36 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: wonkowasright
....and that he himself no longer agreed with the church's teachings on homosexuality.

It's not church's teachings that he needs to worry about. There is all sorts of heresies in so-called Christian churches. Instead the final authority is what does God's Word, the King James Bible, say about lesbians & homosexuals. In Romans 1:18-32, God clearly points out the lesbians & homosexuals are unnatural acts & He calls them reprobates. That's what the Bible says, and that is our final authority.

47 posted on 06/02/2014 7:18:54 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Very well said.


48 posted on 06/02/2014 7:22:12 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Sadly, many folks nowadays define the term “hating gays” as meaning any disagreement with homosexual behavior. It’s like saying “hating adulterers” means disagreeing with adultery.


49 posted on 06/02/2014 7:35:37 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: sport

I know a guy who went to my SBC. He moved to another city, joined the choir at his new church. Then, he got up in front of the choir and said he was sad. He was kicked out that day. I can not imagine my ministers accepting this.


50 posted on 06/02/2014 7:42:41 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: wonkowasright

So much for Sola Scriptura.


51 posted on 06/02/2014 8:13:50 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: wonkowasright

So if a member of a Pastor’s family commits adultery then he must become pro-adultery too????????/ If a member of a Pastor’s family is a child molestor then the Pastor must support child molestors???????

This is what happens when false teachers gain power in churches.


52 posted on 06/02/2014 8:24:42 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: wonkowasright
There's a FR thread on this posted around 9:30 this morning if you want to check the comments...

There Is No ‘Third Way’ — Southern Baptists Face a Moment of Decision (and so will you)

53 posted on 06/02/2014 8:32:31 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: wonkowasright

It’s because they are celibate, right. If only they would let them marry -— oh, I forgot that’s for Catholics and something else. <sarc off


54 posted on 06/02/2014 10:19:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mark17
It looks very well like he might be OK with it. Fortunately, each church in the SBC, is an independent entity, only slightly influenced, if influenced at all, by the other independent churches. In this particular church, if he embraces open sin, whatever it may be, in this case, homosexuality, either he will soon be preaching to an empty sanctuary, or the deacons and others in authority, will relieve him of his pastoral duties, and find another pastor. If they don't, then let their church fail and disband.

Perhaps then, he will pack up his Bible and MOVE ON down the road. This IS the country of "second chances."

55 posted on 06/03/2014 5:52:34 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: wonkowasright

Absurd. What if his son robbed banks? Would he switch views on Thou Shalt Not Steal?


56 posted on 06/03/2014 5:57:31 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: cloudmountain
Perhaps then, he will pack up his Bible and MOVE ON down the road. This IS the country of "second chances."

Yes of course there are second chances, but usually a certain amount of time must pass, to regain his credibility.

57 posted on 06/03/2014 6:12:02 AM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: wonkowasright

These SBC churches will remain SBC no longer, or the denomination is dead.


58 posted on 06/03/2014 8:22:31 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: GeronL

Chances are, this isn’t really that big of a sea change in this “church’s” body of doctrine. Big jumps into apostasy aren’t possible without a whole lot of little incremental apostasies over probably decades.


59 posted on 06/03/2014 8:25:05 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

bump


60 posted on 06/03/2014 8:27:21 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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