Posted on 04/08/2014 10:04:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
These stupid interpretations are of no use. We have a Church that gave us the books in the Bible with a 2000 year history, not fools but saints, martyrs, and the disciples of Christ from the catacombs to the farthest corners of the earth. The greatest scientist, philosophers, astronomers, poets, sculptors, essayists, converted atheists, noble laureates and theologians are all Catholics. Other Christian cults are for low-IQ “Joel Osteen” type Christians who simply think they can cite random text, and ignore context, history, and received tradition.
All the smart people are Catholics, eh???? HaHahaHaHa...
Scripture trumps you religion, your tradition, your history, you intellectuals and especially your philosophers...Always has, always will...
As I was trying to point out to you, I am talking about the Convention, not the individual churches or their members. The Convention, which is the SBC, controls all the agencies that are supported by Baptist giving. The Convention is tacking to the left and is bringing that leftward trend into the churches. Individual Southern Baptists (i.e. members of churches that give the SBC, which is NOT a denomination)are still voting conservatively, but the CONVENTION is trying to undermine their conservatism on the social issues I mentioned.
“The quote addresses gay marriage and moving left on social issues”
The federal govt doesn’t need to be involved in these issues in the first place.
Just start all over, you said my post 22 to some else and which was purely on SB voters was “a day late and a dollar short” which didn’t fit post 22 at all.
So I cleared up your mistake.
To: achilles2000
Unless Southern Baptists have quit voting about 80% pro-life republican, then my post was completely accurate.
38 posted on 4/9/2014 9:35:30 AM by ansel12
Who told you that, the social liberal running to lead the federal government and telling us to drop opposition to gay marriage?
Libertarians search for all kinds of new ways and approaches to push the left's social agenda, that is one of the silliest and most ignorant.
I’ve seen no sign the SBC “leaders” have any significant influence. Most congregations I’ve been in yawn and ignore...
Uh, you realize that this wasn’t a federal issue until 1973 right? Roe v. Wade? The liberal majority on the USSC made it a federal right. Good grief
What does Roe v Wade have to do with gay marriage at the federal level, or any level and Rand Paul moving left on gay marriage and against social conservatism?
Rand Paul is calling on Christians and conservatives to end the fight against gay marriage, and he is running to be the leader among the feds.
Law pertaining to marriage has always been a power belonging to the states. It is the leftist who want to make gay marriage a federally protected right.
Wrong, the states had state marriage law, and the feds had federal marriage law for it’s own needs.
The federal government decides marriage law at the federal level for millions of Americans and immigrants, in the military, federal employment and in immigration, and federal law on gay marriage is the most influential force on the national perception by voters, of gay marriage.
Rand Paul didn’t kick off a campaign for governor, he is running for federal office, to be President, and he started that by calling to end opposing gay marriage, and in support of social liberalism.
You miss the point. These issues have only developed because of an immoral populace. This is tiresome.
I didn’t realize that this was religion and asked the mod to remove my post that could be seen as mind reading.
I am not missing the point, I am making the point, supporting Rand Paul and his support for gay marriage, and his opposition to social conservatism and traditional America, and supporting libertarianism, is to be supporting and campaigning for an “immoral populace”.
If you don’t support gay marriage, then reverse your position on Paul and libertarianism, support a conservative party platform, conservative candidates, and conservative politics, to protect marriage and reverse the federal legalization of gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration.
Support politics and law that protects marriage at all levels of government, from city politics, to County, to state, to federal politics.
I support the Constitution. Laws don’t make Christians. That is is the sovereign work of God.
Christians don’t support politics and laws, and politicians, who are creating Sodom and Gomorrah and destroying marriage and America, and they sure don’t use God’s name in their political arguments promoting such evil.
If you don’t support gay marriage, then reverse your position on Paul and libertarianism, support a conservative party platform, conservative candidates, and conservative politics, to protect marriage and reverse the federal legalization of gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration.
Support politics and law that protects marriage at all levels of government, from city politics, to County, to state, to federal politics.
Support politics and party platforms that reflect Christian values, not these new anti-God values of the last 50 years of leftism and libertarianism.
Thats why I am not voting for Jeb Bush or Christie. Thanks
Rand Paul has come out in support for gay marriage and against Christianity in American politics, by taking a position against social conservatism.
Your tag line indicates that you are a promoter of Rand Paul’s and libertarian politics, which are against God and traditional America, and in support of gay marriage.
How does does Rand Paul not make your list of politicians that you won’t support?
I think he was thinking out loud about campaign strategy. No where does he advocate a policy shift. What about his voting record? What do you find issue with?
Rand Paul is pretty clear as he campaigns to lead the GOP, he disagree with it’s platform on conservative issues.
Paul sees the party platform as an obstacle to winning elections, to winning voters.
“I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues,” Paul advised. “The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.”
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