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Given the "Satanic Verses," Can the Qur'an Be Trusted?
3/27/2014 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 03/27/2014 12:57:27 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

If God allowed Mohammed to (for a time) allow himself to believe that the "Satanic Verses" (or satanic doctrine) that Al-lh had three daughters: Al-lat, Al-manat and Al-Uzza and then later told Mohammed that that doctrine that Mohammed himself believed for a time (and taught others to believe) were in fact not from Him but from Satan, how can Muslims be absolutely certain that it wasn't Satan impersonating Al-lah --- and telling Mohammed that he was given error when in fact he was given truth the first time around (while pretending to be Al-lah), so as to muddle up the rest of the Qur'an and make the vercaity of the entire thing subject to question?


TOPICS: History; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: islamsatanicverses; mohammed
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1 posted on 03/27/2014 12:57:27 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

How about if Rushdie’s book wasn’t written?

(Disclosure: I haven’t read Rushdie’s book, but I have read the Koran, and as a Christian I found myself at variance with Koranic doctrines, at best.)


2 posted on 03/27/2014 1:01:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It is my belief that this Allah whom Muslims worship is a demon, but not Satan himself. Demons serve Satan by destroying/leading people away from a saving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the only way to the Father.


3 posted on 03/27/2014 1:04:44 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Olog-hai

I haven’t read Rusdie’s book either, but did it merely just raise the existence of the satanic verses?


4 posted on 03/27/2014 1:05:29 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

No one needs to read the Queeran, just observe its effects.


5 posted on 03/27/2014 1:06:26 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Olog-hai
If you have read the Quran, then read the Hadiths and Sunnahs which chronicle the life and sayings of Mo, these are Talibari, Muslim, Isaq and Bukhari; Hadiths are mohammed’s word to his followers, the Sunnahs are the history of muhammad - his motto (sic) was “Kill, kill, kill”... only by reading those books can you understand just how completely opposite Christianity and Islam truly are.

In the Islamic universe, which according to mohammed is quite small (as Paradise only holds 72,000 believers), allah determines everything down to the atomic level - there is no such thing as free will - thus, followers end sentences frequently with “if allah wills”.

6 posted on 03/27/2014 1:12:32 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PoloSec
No one needs to read the Queeran, just observe its effects.

Exactly. If, as a Muslim, your understanding of the teachings leads you to cut out women's genitals and treat them as slave proprty, and hunt down and torture of kill those who don't believe exactly as you do (even other Muslims, for that matter, let alone Christians), and blow your own children up in public squares to kill as many innocent people as possible, then you can be pretty sure that what you've learned came from Satan.

It's this advanced logic thing.

7 posted on 03/27/2014 1:14:59 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Rushdie’s book explained the ACTUAL Satanic Verses of the Koran


8 posted on 03/27/2014 1:15:04 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Monotheism? With all those jinn running around?

Phooey.


9 posted on 03/27/2014 1:20:17 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Can it be “trusted”?????

That’s the dumbest question I’ve ever seen in my life.


10 posted on 03/27/2014 1:24:32 PM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It served as a painful reminder.

There are Koranic verses that refer to older verses being abrogated, most notably Sura 2:106.
We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?

11 posted on 03/27/2014 1:30:32 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Prophet of Doom: Islam's Terrorist Dogma In Muhammad's Own Words
12 posted on 03/27/2014 1:41:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It was written by a pedophile. How in the world can we trust a pedophile?


13 posted on 03/27/2014 1:44:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

A theiving, murdering, pedophile.


14 posted on 03/27/2014 2:09:26 PM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Rich21IE

.....As in NO!!!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 03/27/2014 2:18:11 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Olog-hai

At variance with Koranic doctrine? That’s putting it mildly.

Did you read the murder and mayhem part?


16 posted on 03/27/2014 2:33:31 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I haven’t read Rusdie’s book either, but did it merely just raise the existence of the satanic verses?

It is a really good question. I fisrt researched these in depth when I read a book about the rise of Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses

"The Satanic Verses are a small number of apparently pagan verses that, in traditional Islamic interpretation, were alleged to have been temporarily included in the Qur'an by the Islamic prophet Muhammad, only to be later removed. Narratives derived from hadith involving these verses can be read in, among other places, the biographies of Muhammad by al-Wāqidī, Ibn Sa'd (who was a scribe of Waqidi), al-Tabarī, and Ibn Ishaq"

One of the reasons the Muslims went ape crazy on Rushdie was he got too close to the truth: Mohammad himself said he received the Koran while under the spell of demonic influence, but his wife convinced him it was a good demon, or an angel, depending on your interpretation.

17 posted on 03/27/2014 3:40:31 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I wish the pages were more soft and absorbent.
18 posted on 03/27/2014 3:43:46 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: 353FMG
That’s why I said “at variance . . . at best”. My reaction to the denials of Jesus as the Son of God were (at best) outrage, for the record.
19 posted on 03/27/2014 4:16:22 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You can trust the Koran and its devotees to do certain sorts of things and act in certain ways if you read and understnd what the Koran says and the principle of replacement and supercession oflater verses for earlier verses.


20 posted on 03/27/2014 6:47:26 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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