Posted on 02/26/2014 2:53:12 PM PST by Dr. Thorne
Born Irish, in a family of eight, my early childhood was fulfilled and happy. My father was a Colonel in the Irish Army until he retired when I was about nine. As a family, we loved to play, sing, and act, all within a military camp in Dublin. We were a typical Irish Roman Catholic family. My father sometimes knelt down to pray at his bedside in a solemn manner. My mother would talk to Jesus while sewing, washing dishes, or even smoking a cigarette. Most evenings we would kneel in the living room to say the Rosary together. No one ever missed Mass on Sundays unless he was seriously ill.
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This is man who was studying for the priesthood who had been discouraged from studying the Bible by professorial priests. The deviancy of the Catholic Church is black or white - you either accept it blindly or you walk away. Anyone willing to study Scripture will quickly find that church teachings are utter rubbish in the face of God's Truth.
Can we stop using the word “devout”? It really annoys this Catholic since it’s applied to Kennedys and people who dump their faith. Hardly devout.
As XPins, we need to be comfortable with considering Richard as a Christian; not a “protestant” or “roman catholic”
Although we will not acheive perfect unity in this generation...we need not let Satan “divide and conquer” within the church militant.
Thanks for posting this.
“the Catholic Church is black or white - you either accept it blindly or you walk away.”
Exactly, like truth itself, you can either accept it or walk away. In order to accept the truth, you must think and trust like a child. The Catholic Church has preserved and protected the teachings of Jesus Christ found in sacred scripture and apostolic tradition. You don’t need to rationalize an interpretation based on a subjective, intellectual study of the Bible. That just distorts the truth and leads to 40,000 different denominations teaching whatever they feel is relevant. Of course, many of the denominations come and go each year, but the Catholic Church will never fail or falter. Jesus said so Himself.
“As XPins, we need to be comfortable with considering Richard as a Christian; not a “protestant” or “roman catholic””
I don’t think God cares if which assembly a Christian worships at. Only that they are a Christian.
Agreed.
I see no reason for “celebration” if Richard agrees to a protestant or traditional understanding of The Faith.
That is non-sequitor to me and not really a cause for drop-your-panties “breaking news”.
IOW, ho-hum.
This needs help...
“Exactly, like truth itself, you can either accept it or walk away.”
If something is true, it can withstand examination.
“In order to accept the truth, you must think and trust like a child.”
Trust is great. You are also told by Christ that the greatest commandment includes: “loving God with ALL your MIND.”
“The Catholic Church has preserved and protected the teachings of Jesus Christ found in sacred scripture and apostolic tradition.”
In exactly the same way that the rooster makes the sun rise when he crows.
“You don’t need to rationalize an interpretation based on a subjective, intellectual study of the Bible.”
You do need to study to show yourself approved and rightly able to handle the Word of Truth. That involves using your mind and applying yourself. You are commanded to do so.
“That just distorts the truth and leads to 40,000 different denominations teaching whatever they feel is relevant.”
Non-sequitur argument, but popular among romans.
“Of course, many of the denominations come and go each year, but the Catholic Church will never fail or falter.”
It has faltered many times in history. Popes have faltered. Bishops have faltered. Priests have faltered. Etc.
“Jesus said so Himself.”
No, actually He did not say so.
“I see no reason for “celebration” if Richard agrees ...”
Please note the quotation marks in my original post. I was poking fun by quoting a certain FReeper who posts this on every thread that is about a protestant who becomes a catholic...
Ah! I’ll recycle my introspection on your OP.
PAX, brah.
PAX BAX at ya!
The Kennedys have always been deeply honored by the Catholic church, they are America’s Catholic royalty, if they aren’t devout, then how is that possible?
Even Pelosi and Biden, and others, meet with their Pope and take Holy Communion at the Vatican, or John Kerry and Chris Dodd taking communion at Papal Mass, how can a humble average Catholic not see them as devout and respected above themselves, by their church?
Is this the best you can do?
Well, as a humble little average Catholic as you so charmingly describe, they are, of course, not devout, and we all know that despite failures on the part of Church hierarchy. Of course, all Protestant politicians are above reproach. And humble average Protestants know this as well.
You missed the entire post.
I was pointing out that a humble, average Catholic looks upon how the Catholic church treats the powerful Catholic democrat politicians, and can only conclude that they are devout, as they meet with the Popes, and take Communion at the Vatican, and receive huge catholic funerals, and have marriages annulled, and so on.
It isn’t that the democrat leaders who are Catholic are not “above reproach”, it is that they are the ones most honored by the Catholic church, the Kennedys are Catholic Royalty in America, they aren’t driven from the denomination, or looked down on by it, instead they travel in the high levels of it, something that must really impress the more humble, rank and file Catholics who will never take Communion at the Vatican at the European headquarters. No wonder Catholics are democrats.
I didn’t miss a thing. I know you, as Paul Newman said in The Verdict. I know you.
I hope you aren’t carrying baggage from thread to thread and building personal grudges against freepers, but you clearly misread that post, your response confused, even reversed parts of it.
Maybe if you wrote clearly I would understand what you were saying. I don’t go from thread to thread collecting personal grudges against freepers. That’s a slightly hysterical take on what I said. In fact, you posted to me and I responded. Maybe you’re following me.
Read your post 17, it isn’t related to my post, it seems to be some sort of personal statement related to your carrying some sort of personal baggage.
Post 16 should have helped you understand what post 13 said.
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