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Why did so many seek to revolutionize the Church in the 60s and 70s?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 2/23/2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 02/24/2014 2:34:59 AM PST by markomalley

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1 posted on 02/24/2014 2:35:00 AM PST by markomalley
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Msgr Pope ping


2 posted on 02/24/2014 2:35:22 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Remember the “Jesus Freaks” of the early ‘70’s? LSD, magic mushrooms, mescaline, etc. can do weird things to people if consumed in mass quantities (no pun intended) often enough.

Better they became Jesus Freaks than go over the edge and end up like the Manson family...I think for most though, it eventually wore off but they retained the most positive aspects of those experiences.

Whatever the outcome, they were on a slippery slope because playing with those kinds of drugs is like playing with psychological fire.


3 posted on 02/24/2014 2:48:48 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: markomalley
As a non-Catholic, I will voice my appreciation for Catholic cathedrals.

The author touched on, but didn't develop the smell of an old cathedral

Probably most arresting is the ever so faint aroma of the benediction incense.

The olfactory sense is one of the most powerful and least appreciated (imo) of the five and as we can all attest to the smell of a new car, only one attending since childhood can appreciate the smell of incense in a Catholic church ... but mainly (again, imo) the larger and more ornate cathedrals.

I think all those archetectural nooks and crannys just have a way of capturing and preserving odor ... almost like ... the walls have noses (as opposed to ears)


I grew up in Holy Name Church and, (reference the building near the end) though I haven't set foot in the building in about 50 years, I'll just BET'cha there's a smell in that building that may bring tears to my eyes.

Please do not misunderstand, I am referring to a building, not a liturgical doctrine.

4 posted on 02/24/2014 3:06:40 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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It is not the job of the Church to be popular, to reflect the thoughts of the times, or to parrot worldly “wisdom.” It is the job of the Church to reflect the views her founder and head Jesus Christ, who speaks in the Scriptures and sacred Tradition he handed down to us. Is not our job to be appealing, or even numerous. It is our work to proclaim that which is been received, whether in season or out of season.

As a Catholic I can say that sums it up nicely.

5 posted on 02/24/2014 3:27:58 AM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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Probably most arresting is the ever so faint aroma of the benediction incense.

That, and the subtle smell of beeswax.

6 posted on 02/24/2014 3:29:14 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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Contemplating this whole subject ... I hope I get an opportunity to visit before I die.


7 posted on 02/24/2014 3:41:45 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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8 posted on 02/24/2014 4:06:51 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: markomalley

Homosexuals actively infiltrated the Catholic Church-mostly through Georgetown- in order to bring it down from within. Part of the Cloward Pivin strategy.


9 posted on 02/24/2014 4:56:34 AM PST by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: markomalley

The invention of the traveling mic.


10 posted on 02/24/2014 4:58:07 AM PST by Oratam
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How can they be blamed for following marching orders? Those of us who remain blind to the wonderful fruits of the revolution are apparently suffering from an unfortunate lack of discernment.

"...A rich harvest

The harvest of Vatican II is impressive. Often people have forgotten what happened and how much was achieved in practice. So many things are now just taken for granted as common that the faithful are not even aware that such a sensitive change was due to the council.

But if one would make a list of all the fruits of Vatican II, one would see how greatly the Council has changed and renewed the Church..."

http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=21284

11 posted on 02/24/2014 7:42:36 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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I recall reading many years ago an author’s theory that much of the change throughout the Protestant world came about because of the Vietnam War. Young men of draft age found they could avoid military service by enrolling in divinity school. Once finished, these same men discovered they could use their respective churches as power bases from which to continue their original social and political activism and rebellion.

So, over the process of time, these religious leaders moved their churches from theology to social activism and social justice issues.


12 posted on 02/24/2014 7:53:21 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: markomalley
I love yesterday's reading:

For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight.


13 posted on 02/24/2014 8:20:11 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: caseinpoint

There were easier ways to deal with the draft than to become a Christian minister for life.

The Mormon church though, did get to hand out their own deferments, for instance they sent Mitt Romney to France.


14 posted on 02/24/2014 11:38:47 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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“There were easier ways to deal with the draft than to become a Christian minister for life.”

The author I read didn’t intimate the ministers enrolling in divinity school intended to make the ministry a career goal. It was a way to wait out the draft. But then some discovered that churches could be a ready-made power base for continued activism. Not saying all or even most were like that, by any means.

Romney would have served a two-year mission and while some may have used it to avoid the draft, two years is a lot less than four years plus graduate studies in divinity school.


15 posted on 02/24/2014 11:49:35 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: caseinpoint

There were easier ways for someone who probably wasn’t very religious to avoid military service, I was involved in that era, including with draft issues and resistance, I never personally heard of of an anti-military guy wanting to become a minister, as an escape, years of divinity school was not exactly appealing to most draft dodger types.

Romney continued to avoid the draft as his father ran for the presidency, no man in Romney’s direct line, has ever served the United States in the military, no draft, no war, no patriotism, nothing, has gotten one to do his duty during their more than 170 years history here.


16 posted on 02/24/2014 12:18:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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Ping!


17 posted on 02/24/2014 1:42:02 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: MattinNJ

Homosexuals actively infiltrated the Catholic Church-mostly through Georgetown- in order to bring it down from within. Part of the Cloward Pivin strategy.

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That strategy emmanates from much much further below.

;-o


18 posted on 02/24/2014 2:24:36 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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When you say ‘infiltrate’ instead of ‘attracted to’, think of what you are trying to sell as a conspiracy.

It just isn’t rational to think that there was a conspiracy of many young men to devote their entire lives to the Priesthood of the Catholic church, just on the off chance, that at some time before they die of old age, someone will discover them individually involved in homosexual practices at sometime, somewhere.


19 posted on 02/24/2014 3:10:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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You don’t think Satan is capable of such a conspiracy?


20 posted on 02/25/2014 9:09:14 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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