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To: mdmathis6; CynicalBear

A most astute post. Indeed one would have to stuff 7 years worth of woes in a two year bag to make 70 AD be the tell all. Not to mention more Jews and Romans died in the AD 132 rebellion.

The external evidence as you pointed out would have to be ignored as well. John would need to be exiled on Patmos around 62 AD and back and circulating Revelation no later than 65 AD for it to be prophecy.

I also notice these threads end up being more about Darby and how wrong he was and how wrong dispensationalism is. The prederist presentation is about “proving” others wrong without presenting an independent theory standing on its own internal and external evidence.

When you eliminate a literal physical Israel from prophecy fulfillment there are a lot of holes to fill. A convenient way for replacement theology to do so is to pronounce said prophecies already fulfilled. It is a tidy operation.

I will state I am not a “rabid” dispensationalist.” There are theories within dispensationalism which have thin internal evidence but make the most sense Biblically at the macro level. I guess if someone had to pin me down the best I could offer is I am a futurist who believes in a literal 7 year tribulation and after the second coming of Christ a literal 1,000 year physical reign of Christ on earth. I guess that makes me pre-millennial in my thinking and literal futurist.


41 posted on 02/22/2014 5:06:14 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter; mdmathis6
>>I also notice these threads end up being more about Darby and how wrong he was and how wrong dispensationalism is. The prederist presentation is about “proving” others wrong without presenting an independent theory standing on its own internal and external evidence.<<

Of course. The Preterist view, whether partial or full, has so many holes in it they can’t stand up to history. They have to allegorize much of scripture which most often gets them in opposition to other scripture which they then have to ignore or allegorize again.

43 posted on 02/22/2014 5:18:09 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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