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VANITY: Question Regarding Precepts Upon Precepts with Kay Arthur

Posted on 01/28/2014 3:58:39 PM PST by georgiegirl

Please forgive this vanity question, but I have tried googling for an answer and have come up empty. Does anyone know Kay Arthur's beliefs on Reformed Theology or Calvinism? Are her Precepts Upon Precepts Bible Studies based on these beliefs? Thanks!


TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: arthur; precepts; reformed

1 posted on 01/28/2014 3:58:39 PM PST by georgiegirl
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To: georgiegirl

I’ve listened to her for a long time - don’t think she’s Calvinist.


2 posted on 01/28/2014 4:11:47 PM PST by cblue55 ("Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants,")
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To: georgiegirl

I am an authorized and trained leader on Precepts, and would say no and yes. A Calvinist? Yes, like Charles Spurgeon was a Calvinist, yet a Baptist.

Reformed? As in Reformed Presbyterian? (no) Or Reformed Baptist? (yes).

These are my impressions and in no way an official response.

The beauty of P on P is the answers are not dictated, but through deep inductive study each participant is asked to come up with their own understanding of what scripture says. This is by far what we all should do - before ever going to commentaries or the opinions of others.

Many of the problems in Christendom come from believers NOT knowing scripture themselves - everything they believe comes 2nd hand, from a preacher, teacher, Sunday School, or a book. Christians are spiritually weak in general because of this: they do not have a first-hand knowledge of scripture. What they have is pre-digested food from others. It’s like living on Gerber’s Baby Food as an adult.

Kay’s methodology is rock solid in a methodology for studying scripture, and her works do not push a particular doctrine. She should be commended for what she has done. Sad that no man did what she did. When men fail to lead here, God will often raise up a woman to do what a man should have done.


3 posted on 01/28/2014 4:13:05 PM PST by Arlis
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To: georgiegirl

I’m not sure about all of her beliefs, but she’s Pentecostal.

I’m not familiar with this program, but going by the title of her Bible study, it sounds like she’s teaching that we are to take scripture in context - line upon line and precept upon precept.


4 posted on 01/28/2014 4:13:51 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: cblue55

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precept_Ministries_International


5 posted on 01/28/2014 4:15:16 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Heart of Georgia
Arthur is Baptist not Pentecostal.

You might be confusing the term Fundamentalist.

Kay is onto into speaking in tongues and/or faith hearings (Benny Hinn) or name it and claim it theology, i.e. Joyce Meyers or the Osteen's.

6 posted on 01/28/2014 4:31:24 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Arlis

Jesus was a teacher. There is nothing inherently wrong with learning from a teacher.

The Holy Bible is a book. Likewise there is nothing inherently wrong with learning from a book.


7 posted on 01/28/2014 4:35:15 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: georgiegirl

No.


8 posted on 01/28/2014 4:41:10 PM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: zerosix

Okay, thanks for clarifying. I didn’t intend to give wrong info. I went with a friend to see her several years ago when she came to a church in Atlanta. She spoke about her past and how her ministry began, and I assumed from something she said that she was Pentecostal.

I haven’t followed her since then, but she held my attention and what she taught was scripturally sound. Otherwise, I hope she’s careful about things.


9 posted on 01/28/2014 5:00:29 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Kirkwood

I wasn’t knocking teachers. That’s been my ministry for 47 years.

I was knocking Christians lack of knowledge of scriptures. We should be “Bereans”, who didn’t accept Paul’s teaching just because it was from the Holy Spirit. They “searched the scripture” to verify it for themselves, thus turning 2nd hand food from the Holy Spirit through Paul into meat and milk of the Word that was then 1st hand.


10 posted on 01/28/2014 5:10:28 PM PST by Arlis
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To: Kirkwood

But the Bible isn’t a book like any other book. It is a spiritual book, and can only be understood spiritually, as the Holy Spirit gives revelation of divine truth. The mind cannot crack it. Ephesians 1:16-18. I Corin. 2:10 - 16.

I know you already know this......


11 posted on 01/28/2014 5:17:40 PM PST by Arlis
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To: georgiegirl

As someone who has taken several of her courses, the issue is not addressed as such in the studies. You do a verse by verse study and let the text lead you. One of her things is NOT relying on the interpretation of men...for example: why are there dozens of Bibles (Zondervan, McArthur, Scoffield, etc., and each one has its OWN interpretation of this or that passage. ALL DIFFERENT!! Who is right? Her studies encourage you to study what the writer (of the particular Biblical text) was talking about, to whom, why, etc. And then to draw conclusions based on the message. Even in an event where she was the featured speaker, she did not bring up the topic of Calvinism , etc. I don’t think she dwells on those questions.


12 posted on 01/28/2014 6:26:48 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Heart of Georgia

I think you can rest assured, her teaching continues “scripturaly sound,” and also continues to be “careful about ‘things.’”


13 posted on 01/28/2014 6:37:04 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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