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Cuomo to Catholics: You’re Not Welcome in NY
The Catholic Thing ^ | January 19, 2014 | George J. Marlin

Posted on 01/19/2014 6:34:38 PM PST by NYer

Editor’s Note: On Sundays we usually try to focus on spiritual matters, but this column deals with such a direct and serious threat that we thought it urgent to bring it to you today. – Robert Royal 

I was born in New York State and have lived here for more than 61 years. During that time I have paid plenty in state and local taxes and have served the public in a number of capacities including two terms as Executive Director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

I am also a Catholic and a member of New York’s Conservative Party, have served on the transition teams of governors-elect George Pataki (R) and Andrew Cuomo (D), and have been a member of Cuomo’s Council of Economic and Fiscal Advisors.

Yet despite my public service and the large chunk of my earnings that have gone to support New York’s governmental maze, according to Governor Cuomo, I should move out of the Empire State.

Why?  Because I am pro-life, oppose same-sex marriage, and have doubts about Cuomo’s 2013 hastily prepared gun legislation (the SAFE Act) that permits you to buy a gun with a 10-round magazine, but bans using more than seven shots if you need to defend yourself.      

Here’s what Cuomo said this past Friday on “The Capital Pressroom,” an Albany radio talk show, about a large segment of NY voters:

Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay? Is that who they are?  Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.

In an unguarded moment, Governor Cuomo stated publicly what many on the Left have been privately thinking for years: that pro-life and pro-traditional marriage supporters are Ku Klux Klan-like bigots who should either shut up or get out.

Cuomo has not only written off millions of New York Christians and Jews (among others) as unfit citizens, he has yanked the welcome mat from under half the nation’s population, who, public opinion polls indicate, oppose abortion and same-sex marriage.

As for those who “have no place in the state of New York,” the person at the top of that list must be the Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Timothy Dolan. That’s because Dolan has proudly followed in the footsteps of his predecessors who were unabashed defenders of Church teachings in the public square.

For instance, Cardinal Terence Cooke, NYC’s seventh archbishop (1968-1983), whose cause is being promoted for sainthood, publicly fought the passage of the state’s 1970 liberal abortion bill. And the week Roe v. Wade was handed down by the Supreme Court, he issued a pastoral letter that was read in every parish condemning abortion as a “fundamental moral evil.”  Cooke inaugurated the annual Respect Life week and established “Birth Right,” a service to help pregnant women who choose not to abort their babies.

           1977: Andrew Cuomo watches his father concede the New York City mayoral race.

As for “gay rights,” every year Cooke opposed proposed legislation in New York’s City Council that would have amended the administrative code to outlaw discrimination due to “sexual orientation or affectional preference.” You read that right.

A typical statement expressing the Church’s position, released by Cardinal Cooke in April 1978, reads:

If the bill has an underlying purpose, to advocate and gain approval of homosexual behavior and lifestyle, then there is no way in which the Catholic Church in the City of New York may find it acceptable. And there is no way in which we can remain silent on the issue.
The Catholic Church’s moral teaching differentiates between “orientation and “behavior” for both homosexuals and heterosexuals. While a person’s orientation is not subject to moral evaluation, there is no doubt that a person’s behavior is subject to evaluation. Homosexual behavior and an attendant homosexual life style is not in accord with Catholic moral teaching and is, in fact, harmful to all persons who become involved; heterosexuality is the norm for human behavior.

And lest we forget, in the mid-1970s Cooke had an ally in his fight against abortion and gay rights: Mario Cuomo, father of the current governor.

The New York Times reported during Cuomo the Elders unsuccessful 1974 primary run for lieutenant governor that he said in a televised debate that “he would have voted against the 1970 law that relaxed abortion curbs in the state.”  The New York Daily News and the Post also reported that, in his unsuccessful 1977 run for mayor, Mario said he would veto a gay rights bill “that would give homosexual teachers the right to proselytize or advocate their lifestyle.”

I wonder if Governor Andrew Cuomo, a baptized Catholic and a graduate of Archbishop Molloy High School and Fordham University, will demand that Cooke’s cause for canonization be, well, aborted because the cardinal was an “extremist” for defending the teachings of his Church. Will ask his father, himself a former governor, to leave the state for having politically incorrect thoughts forty years ago?

By claiming that people who disagree with his cultural views “have no place in the state of New York,” Cuomo has joined those whom historian Richard Hofstadter described as “totalitarian liberals,” people who employ illiberal means to achieve so-called liberal reforms.

Cardinal Dolan and the bishops of New York’s other eight dioceses have an obligation to respond and to condemn anyone – especially any Catholic public figure – who threatens those who adhere to Church doctrine.

Chicago’s Cardinal Francis George has predicted that he will die in his bed, his successor will die in prison, and his successor will die a martyr. We may not be quite there yet. But unless Church leaders and others act quickly and forcefully, Catholics and others of traditional moral views may find themselves not simply marginalized, but – if some politicians have their way – facing something very like exile in their own nation.

TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; andrewcuomo; banglist; catholicpoliticians; catholicvote; conservativeparty; cooke; cuomo; deathpanels; demagogicparty; georgepataki; homosexualagenda; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; ny; obamacare; policestate; prolife; religiouspersecution; romancatholicism; zerocare
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To: NYer

Die Conservatives sind unser Ungluck. Conservatives ‘raus.

41 posted on 01/19/2014 8:43:31 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: Unam Sanctam; All
Unfortunately, it's not a fantasy. Do you happen to recall the last two presidential elections?

Thank you for replying.

There is a basic "apples and oranges" problem in comparing wider 10th Amendment-protect state power issues with the issues concerning the much narrower powers that the states have delegated to the feds via the Constitution. More specifically, many low-information citizens do not understand the federal government's constitutionally limited powers. Consequently, such citizens do not understand that the federal government has no constitutional authority to address state power issues like public healthcare, abortion, gay marriage, etc..

In other words, the corrupt media helped to get Obama elected and reelected on promises, particularly "free" healthcare, which the federal government actually has no constitutional authority to address.

42 posted on 01/19/2014 8:52:30 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Jim Noble
Cuomo self-identifies as a faithful Catholic, and the bishop of Albany and the Archbishop of New York obviously don’t disagree.

It'd be great if they and the Pope took Catholic politicians like Couomo and excommunicated them, for starters.

Must feel that it cause more trouble than it's worth, but I cant figure out how they draw that conclusion.

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To: Jim Noble

Judgement BEGINS at the pulpit.

(meaning those that DECEIVE their flock will be the first to feel our Father’s wrath.)

44 posted on 01/19/2014 9:10:14 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: NYer
"Notice the date of the exchange was last year. Cuomo’s statements, at that time, were mild by comparison to what he said this past Friday. Yet ... I have scoured the news links and find absolutely nothing from Dolan since Friday. His silence is deafening. The old “slap on the back, wink & nod, happy go lucky” attitude will not cut it this time. He is a serious disappointment as archbishop."

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Cuomo just unveiled his new ( "New York State Theme Song" ) for all pro-life Catholics, other pro-lifers, and anyone else who does not agree with Cuomo about anything.

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And here is "Dolan's usual 'Hail fellow well met' response to Cuomo".

Dolan and B-O

Dolan's Response to All Attacks Against the Church

45 posted on 01/19/2014 9:24:57 PM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: NYer

Mr. Marlin is most welcome here in the Lone Star state where all Christians who are conservative are welcome.

Come on down sir, the weather is nice and there are no state income taxes.

46 posted on 01/19/2014 9:41:20 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: NYer

BTW, great article. Conservative Catholics should be moving in droves to southern red states where your vote will count.

47 posted on 01/19/2014 9:43:36 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Amendment10

No but Cuomo and both parties voted in sodomite “marriage.” This was one of the few states that arrived at sodomite “marriage” by state representation. THAT is liberal. Even Californication required judicial fiat to overturn Prop 8.

48 posted on 01/19/2014 9:50:43 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: NYer

Cardinal Francis George is absolutely correct..........the Catholic Church is under assault AND adherents to the Faith WILL be IMPRISONED AND MARTYRED in this COUNTRY!!

49 posted on 01/20/2014 1:36:49 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer; The Mayor; Salvation; AuntB; Arthur Wildfire! March; Tennessee Nana; artichokegrower; ...
NY Gov Cuomo: "Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that’s who they are, extreme conservatives have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are."

(Cackle) when he got into the WH----Boobamba yelled "olly, olly, octen free---come out, come out wherever you are."

Every weirdo, and his mentally challenged cousin, tripped over themselves to come out of their little liberal man caves.

Cuomo's just another Loony Tune that found his inner moron, thanks to Boobamba.

The stunted growth of these "political (cough) visionaries" extends from A all the way to B.

50 posted on 01/20/2014 3:01:57 AM PST by Liz
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To: Ann Archy

I guess I don’t have too far to go. I have a prison ministry at the Rhode Island ACI. This deacon will not kowtow to the totalitarian evil left.

51 posted on 01/20/2014 5:08:24 AM PST by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

52 posted on 01/20/2014 5:13:53 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM.
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Absolutely disgraceful!

53 posted on 01/20/2014 5:20:00 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: NYer

Andrew Cuomo: Who is he? Is he this extreme liberal who is pro-abortion, anti-second amendment, pro so called homosexual marriage? Is that who he is? Because if that’s who he is and he’s an extreme intolerant liberal, he has no place in the Catholic Church because that’s not what the Catholic Church is.

54 posted on 01/20/2014 6:16:54 AM PST by rwa265
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To: Liz
Cuomo's just another Loony Tune that found his inner moron...

Good one Liz.

Cuomo's charming the liberal world with his "you must be willing to kill your children or get out of New York" mantra..

He's a sick one.

55 posted on 01/20/2014 6:39:07 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Alex Murphy

You would be so correct. It turns out that the “sense of humor” overtakes sacred scripture, doctrine, canon law, repentance certainly, and common sense. A pity.

This is, of course, another scandalous response, if accurate, for the laity to suffer, greatly in the way of the “new evangelization”, I fear.


56 posted on 01/20/2014 9:19:25 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Heart-Rest

The best way to deal with Cardinal Dolan is to divert your contribution to the Cardinal’s Appeal to a more worthwhile charity.

57 posted on 01/20/2014 9:48:58 AM PST by ardara
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To: All
I see "Tolerant and Compassionate" liberal Cuomo is flexing his nasty pro-abortion muscles....the blood-thirsty hater determined some of those "underwater homeowners" are pro-life....and he's all set to punish them. Read on.

NY POST----Cuomo, NYAG Schneiderman, duke it out over $600 million fund (pol pork-fest fight)

EDITED......Albany pols are in a boiling dispute over who gets to spend a $600M housing foreclosure settlement from JP Morgan Chase. Sap-happy lefties want to help underwater homeowners victimized by the subprime Gov Cuomo's infected with "higher office brain disease" -- plans $2 billion in tax cuts – though his plan doesn’t count on the $600M settlement money.

LAUGH BREAK Bertha Lewis, president of the Black Insitute (former head of ACORN), said, “What I want to know is WTF? Why take our funds? This settlement money was intended to help struggling homeowners in New York, too many of whom are African-American and Latino.”


REFERENCE Cuomo's Social Engineering as HUD Chief Contributed to Subprime Crisis / originally published on

---SNIP---In 1993 President Bill Clinton appointed Andrew Cuomo (now NY governor) to the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) as Assistant Secretary. In 1997 Cuomo took over as HUD chief replacing Clinton appointee Henry Cisneros. During Cisneros tenure he championed Clinton's goal of social engineering within the housing market forcing lenders to issue loans to those that would not financially qualify for the lending.

Cisneros left office in a scandal involving lying to the FBI over payouts to a mistress, Cisneros subsequently pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and though never sent to prison received a pardon from Bill Clinton in 2001.

Andrew Cuomo took the HUD reins and not only furthered Cisneros and Clinton's policies but greatly expanded them.

Henry Cisneros moved the GSEs toward a requirement that 42 percent of their mortgages serve low and moderate income families. Andrew Cuomo raised that number to 50 percent and dramatically hiked GSE mandates to buy mortgages for the "very-low-income."

These bad loans were purchased and sold throughout the secondary market and the pyramid grew and the bottom collapsed resulting in the subprime crisis we are still reeling from today.

In 2008, the Village Voice published a compelling report detailing Andrew Cuomo's policy decisions "that gave birth to the country's current crisis."

The report touched on how Cuomo's 187-page rules "opened the door to abuse." The rules explicitly rejected the idea of imposing any new reporting requirements on the GSEs. In other words, HUD wanted Fannie and Freddie to buy risky loans, but the department didn't want to hear just how risky they were.

NY'ers failed to see the actual harm to the minority community directly caused by Cuomo's HUD policies...and that is no laughing matter.

Cuomo's top aide said, "We believe that there are a lot of loans to black Americans that could be safely purchased by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac if these companies were more flexible." Andrew Cuomo doubled down and had this to say about his HUD standards, "GSE presence in the subprime market could be of significant benefit to lower-income families, minorities, and families living in underserved areas."

How's that working out for the minority community, where foreclosures and unemployment rates have hit the hardest as a result of such failed policies and blatant social engineering?

SOURCE 7077218.html

58 posted on 01/20/2014 12:32:28 PM PST by Liz
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To: All

"No Andy, when I said 'he couldn't cut the
mustard" on my cooking show, I didn't mean you."

59 posted on 01/21/2014 5:20:14 AM PST by Liz
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