Posted on 01/05/2014 9:52:14 AM PST by ebb tide
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This is a reading of the the tea leaves and even worse, an attempt to read Mary’s thoughts. Both interpretations are possible and are themselves wholly innocuous.
Its only a denigration of Mary if you have her placed on too high a pedestal.
I cannot help but muse that in at least one conversation Mary suggested that “maybe you should not go to Jerusalem.” I think she knew, as did Jesus, that it would not be good.
Mr. Vennari thinks that he is more Catholic than the Pope.
If the Lord could be so discomposed as the hour of truth approached, do you really think Our Lady could not have been similarly discomposed?
I'm not sure if either you or John Vennari have the spiritual acumen to engage in such extravagant criticism of the Holy Father. Perhaps a more prayerful, lest troll-like approach would be better.
Catherine of Siena you guys are not.
The one fact we know for sure about Mary is that she was a Jewish mother. Need I say more?
““Mary is the Queen of Martyrs” writes St. Alphonsus, “
Protestants tend to make less of mary than they should. Catholics tend to make more of mary than they should.
This article is a great example of the second.
There is no evidence Mary knew her Son had to die as Messiah. Only that she was to bear Messiah.
You guys are amazing...Untold numbers of people in your religion make us fables about Mary as does this posted piece and yet unlike your pope (in this instance) pervert the scriptures in the process...
Luk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Luk 1:29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
Mary was pretty shook up...Obviously your pope and your pope only knew that...
LSJ Gloss:
διαταράσσω
to throw into great confusion, confound utterly
Strong's:
διαταράσσω
to disturb wholly, i.e. agitate (with alarm)
I’m not sure if either you or John Vennari have the spiritual acumen to engage in such extravagant criticism of the Holy Father.
...idle speculation on your part...should a pontiff go off the deep end, and make utterances that are going south, extravagant criticism is the least he should receive, given his spiritual responsibility...
...of course, this particular pronouncement of his doesn’t really go too far south, in my humble estimation...
Perhaps we should pray for the gift of humility for Mr. Vennari.
;-/
AMEN.
You guys are amazing...Untold numbers of people in your religion make us fables about Mary as does this posted piece and yet unlike your pope (in this instance) pervert the scriptures in the process...
...you know, one of the great verities in this world is that horse hockey, even when backed up with Koine Greek to give it false erudition, remains horse hockey...
IBTPWM
On the contrary; I'm not sure if the Bishop of Rome has the spiritual acumen to engage in mind-reading the Blessed Mother.
Perhaps there's others we could also pray for.
“We must include the excluded and preach peace. Vatican II, inspired by Pope John and Paul VI, decided to look to the future with a modern spirit and to open [the Church] to modern culture. The Council Fathers knew that opening to modern culture meant religious ecumenism and dialogue with non-believers. After then very little was done in that direction. I have the humility and ambition to want to do it.”Pope Francis
Actually, he may be.
The only Catholic making up fables about Mary is the current pope.
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