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Near Coming of Christ...Joseph Smith's Mission...Another Mission to Be Undertaken...
(Lds) JournalofDiscourses.com ^ | Feb. 2, 1884 | Lds "apostle" Erastus Snow

Posted on 12/27/2013 4:34:09 PM PST by Colofornian

...But what I was going to bring before your minds was this: Shall we expect that the Lord Jesus is going to delay His coming in the midst of His people, until all this great work shall have been accomplished? By no means. I do not understand that He has ever intimated anything of this kind. Nor need we wait in our faith and in our expectations till all these great and glorious things shall have been accomplished on the earth before the Prophet Joseph Smith shall come unto us again. He has merely taken another mission in advance of us. He fulfilled the mission given unto him on earth. The Lord was satisfied with his labors here. He lived long enough to endow his brethren with full authority to carry on the work that he had begun on the earth. He took his departure behind the veil. The Lord suffered his enemies to destroy him in the flesh, to take away his life, and he was made an offering—what shall I say? an offering for sin....

...there will be another mission undertaken. The next mission will be to come and prepare the way in Zion, and in her Stakes, and in the temples of our God for turning the key of the resurrection of the dead, to bring forth those that are asleep, and to exalt them among the Gods. And who will be first and foremost? Why, he whom God has chosen and placed first and foremost to hold the keys of this last dispensation.

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TOPICS: History; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: josephsmith; lds; mormonism; secondcoming
NOTE: Headline had to be crunched due to lack of character space available; Original headline: Near Coming of Christ—Work to Be Accomplished—Temples Already Built, and Many More Yet to Be Built—Redemption of the Dead—Ezekiel's Vision—How Long Will It Take to Warn the World?—Will the Lord Delay His Coming Until All this Work is Accomplished?—Joseph Smith's Mission on Earth and Behind the Veil—Another Mission to Be Undertaken—The Resurrection of Joseph Smith Near—The Meaning of the Expression, “The Morning of the First Resurrection.”

This discourse given by a Mormon "apostle" -- a man who had been an Lds "apostle" for 35 years when he made this statement in the Tabernacle in Logan Utah. [Erastus Snow was a Mormon "apostle" for 39 years]

From the discourse:

'...before the Prophet Joseph Smith shall come unto us again'

Yet another piece of evidence that the Mormon Church has stressed "The Second Coming of Joseph Smith!"

Here is how Erastus Snow's message looked in the Feb. 27, 1884 issue of the Mormon Church-owned Deseret News:

Deseret News: Discourse by Apostle Erastus Snow, In the Tabernacle, Logan, Saturday Afternoon, February 2nd, 1884

Here is Lds author Duane S. Crowther quoting this same Erastus Snow message...although he clipped out the first graph highlighted in this thread:

Duane S. Crowther, Prophecy: Key to the Scriptures, p. 85

And please note: This book is available thru Deseret Book Co. -- the publishing arm of the Mormon Church!

For Crowther's Chapter 6 content stressing the Second Coming of Joseph Smith -- but in a different presentation format -- see: Duane S. Crowther, Prophecy: Key to the Scriptures, Chapter 6

1 posted on 12/27/2013 4:34:09 PM PST by Colofornian
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From the discourse:

...there will be another mission undertaken. The next mission will be to come and prepare the way in Zion, and in her Stakes, and in the temples of our God for turning the key of the resurrection of the dead, to bring forth those that are asleep, and to exalt them among the Gods. And who will be first and foremost? Why, he whom God has chosen and placed first and foremost to hold the keys of this last dispensation.

The last sentence is a reference to Joseph Smith. Lds leaders have constantly harped on Smith having "the keys of this last dispensation."

And for those of you who think Mormonism teaches about only "one God"; well, sorry to dispel that PR rumor.

And Lds author Duane S. Crowther, whose book in post #1 is mentioned as having been carried by Lds Church's publishing arm, Deseret Book...did cite the "gods" portion of that quote in his book (p. 85). See post #1 for link.

2 posted on 12/27/2013 4:37:07 PM PST by Colofornian (Lds: why does the D&C 88:81-82 warning commission ONLY apply to privileged Mormons?)
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Part VI in series:

The 'Literal Latter days': Will The Second Coming of Joseph Smith occur in 2014?'

In case you missed it, here were Parts I --> V:
* The Return of the Prophet Joseph Smith [Will 2014 bring the second coming of Joseph Smith?]
* Joseph Smith billed as a "latter days" "great deliverer: DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS Student Manual: Religion 324 and 325 [Coming Latter-day 'great deliverer']
* An Army of Elders -- Heber C. Kimball [1868 Mormon leader prophecy: Second Coming of Joseph Smith]
* Consecration—Temporal Equality—Selfishness to Be Overcome—Resurrection—Return to Jackson County...
* Prophecy: Key to the Future [Literal Latter days? Will Joseph Smith's Second Coming occur in 2014?]
3 posted on 12/27/2013 4:38:13 PM PST by Colofornian (Lds: why does the D&C 88:81-82 warning commission ONLY apply to privileged Mormons?)
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4 posted on 12/27/2013 4:41:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truthorth reading)
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Here's another interesting fact on Erastus Snow's February 1884 message:

A Mormon apologetics outfit -- Shields-research.org -- wanted to prove that Mormon leaders in 1884 (E. Snow) taught that Joseph Smith's resurrection was still to come:

Shields-Research.org: The Polygamy Story: Fiction and Fact by J. Max Anderson 1979 by J. Max Anderson (by permission of the author) Chapter Ten JOSEPH SMITH RESURRECTED?

What's interesting is that in the process, they quoted Snow saying: "...The Prophet Joseph Smith shall come unto us again." [See content matching up with "Footnote 14"]

So even this Lds apologetics outfit...
(a) cited this Snow message to confirm a key theological point it was attempting to make;
and (b) ...had ZERO qualms in promoting Joseph Smith's Second Coming to the Mormons!

5 posted on 12/27/2013 4:48:30 PM PST by Colofornian (Lds: why does the D&C 88:81-82 warning commission ONLY apply to privileged Mormons?)
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A Brief Glance @ Lds Promotion of Heber C. Kimball's 1868 Prophecy, 'An Army of Elders' + Other Joseph Smith-Return Prophecy-Mongering

YEAR Sources Promoting Kimball's 1868 'Prophecy'
2012 Cedar Fort Publishing (Springville, UT): Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days: See subtitle: "An Army of Elders by Heber C. Kimball (1931)"
December 2004 Deseret Book Publisher: Prophecy: Key to the Future by Duane S. Crowther For exact reference to Kimball "prophecy", see. p. 86 of : Cedar Fort publishing, pp. 84-86
2004 The Coming Storm and Redemption by Don B. Williams, Mt. Zion Books
2002 Cedar Fort publisher: Author Norma Pyper Mitchell: Book entitled Prophecy Checklist; See reference on p. 71
1988 Deseret Book Publishing (Bookcraft was original publisher); for exact reference in book, see: Life Everlasting: A Definitive Study of Life After Death by Duane S. Crowther; note also that Crowther references this as being quoted in Church Section, p.3 of May 23, 1931 Deseret News, a newspaper owned by the Mormon Church
June 1980 Prophecy and Modern Times by Cleon Skousen, pp. 31-33; per Per this Sept. 1, 2008 blog, Skousen covers this on pp. 31-33
1979 See content matching Footnote 14: Shields-Research.org: The Polygamy Story: Fiction and Fact by J. Max Anderson 1979 by J. Max Anderson (by permission of the author) Chapter Ten JOSEPH SMITH RESURRECTED?
1947 Smith, Robert W. and Elisabeth A., Scriptural and Secular Prophecies Pertaining to The Last Days, Ninth Edition, Pyramid Press, SLC, UT, pp. 134-138; per Per this Sept. 1, 2008 blog, authors covers this on pp. 134-138; originally published 1931
May 23, 1931 "Prophecy of Heber C. Kimball," Church Section, Deseret News, p. 3:
Oct. 3-5, 1930 General Conference Report, pp. 58-59; Visions of Glory
Feb. 27, 1884 Deseret News: Discourse by Apostle Erastus Snow, In the Tabernacle, Logan, Saturday Afternoon, February 2nd, 1884
Feb. 2, 1884 Lds "apostle" Erastus Snow, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 25, pp. 29-35
March 9, 1873 Lds "apostle" Orson Pratt:
May 1868 Heber C. Kimball per 1931 Deseret News: Note May 1868 citation here: An Army of Elders -- Heber C. Kimball
'Associated' Earlier Lds 'Prophecies' of 2nd Coming of Joseph Smith
June 22, 1844 Supposedly Joseph Smith's "last admonition" before leaving for the Carthage, IL jail: "...This I will promise you, that when I come again to lead you forth, for I will go to prepare a place for you, so that where I am you shall be with me." (William Decatur Kartchner, baptized as Mormon May 8, 1843)
Feb. 24, 1834 Lds "scripture" 103:15-17 in Doctrine & Covenants: 15 Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by power; 16 Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them like as Moses led the children of Israel. 17 For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm."
Nov. 27, 1832 Lds "scripture" 85:7 in Doctrine & Covenants: 7 And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set in order the house of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God;

6 posted on 12/27/2013 4:51:51 PM PST by Colofornian (Lds: why does the D&C 88:81-82 warning commission ONLY apply to privileged Mormons?)
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From the discourse by the Lds "apostle" -- speaking of Joseph Smith:
..."he was made an offering—what shall I say? an offering for sin...."

There ya go: More Mormon Church "Messiahsizing" of Joseph Smith

7 posted on 12/27/2013 4:57:57 PM PST by Colofornian (Lds: why does the D&C 88:81-82 warning commission ONLY apply to privileged Mormons?)
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Thanks for posting this and all the research involved.

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" - John 8:32

8 posted on 12/27/2013 5:06:11 PM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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