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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After Rush’s Tuesday ‘rant’ about the story, he said that he heard that the translation was not accurate. It will remain to be seen whether or not the original English translation is actually the true interpretation of Pope Francis’s words.

Remember that Pope Francis’s interview this summer was translated into a creed that inferred that abortion and contraception and gay lifestyles were not the things to emphasize. It was Jesus and his Gospel we should be evangelizing. Well, it is true that we need to first know Jesus and his gospel, before we begin to proselytize. But just this week, Pope Francis really clarified how terrible abortion was and was not to be trivialized.

I think two things are happening: First the liberals in the news media want to characterize Pope Francis as ‘on their side’, that is liberal; and second Pope Francis will quickly learn that he has to be more careful with how the press will manipulate his words.

I am going to give PF the benefit of the doubt here, and believe that his sincere wish for a charitable Christianity and help for the poor, plus his love of the simple life has been poorly enunciated or poorly translated.

Rush is right, however. He and John Stossel both have claimed that capitalism has gotten more people out of poverty than any other economic system. This is true.


26 posted on 11/28/2013 9:31:22 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Gumdrop

“It will remain to be seen whether or not the original English translation is actually the true interpretation of Pope Francis’s words.”

The media is using the translation provided by the Vatican. If it is a bad translation, the Pope needs to fire his translators.

However, the problem is that the Pope says whatever makes him feel good without any thought of consequences. So he says, ‘just say no to war’, without thinking about what would have happened if Germany was given free rein in the 1930s.

“Compassionate fellow-feeling, however, can soon become self-indulgent and lead to spiritual pride. It imparts an inner glow, like a shot of whiskey on a cold day, but like whiskey it can prevent the clear-headedness which we need at least as much as we need warmth of heart. Pascal said that the beginning of morality was to think well; generosity of spirit is not enough.”

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2013/07/22/pope-francis-should-seek-clarity-on-moral-responsibility/#.Uf9c7sOZVPM.twitter


37 posted on 11/28/2013 9:43:37 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Gumdrop
First the liberals in the news media want to characterize Pope Francis as ‘on their side’, that is liberal; and second Pope Francis will quickly learn that he has to be more careful with how the press will manipulate his words.

The Catholic church has a history of putting out various messages, trying to appeal to every slant. When one message gets a complaint, they are quick to say that wasn't the Pope's actual words. Or, it's a translation problem. Hogwash.

42 posted on 11/28/2013 10:07:55 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Gumdrop
It will remain to be seen whether or not the original English translation is actually the true interpretation of Pope Francis’s words.

I'm not big on this pope. Unnecessary double-speak to cover his South American "Liberation Theology" indoctrination and leanings.

The LSM reporting of his words is probably more accurate of the pope's intentions than the views of those that are hoping that it really is possible "lost in translation" errors.

To whit, the lack of strong leadership from the Vatican on challenging and correcting the "erroneous" stories of the pope's statements.

JMO, YMMV

58 posted on 11/28/2013 11:02:39 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Gumdrop

The part of the Exhortation that is catching flack was from a work by the Pope when he was still a Cardinal. Lifted almost verbatim.

It is, of course, possible, that the Holy Spirit, fore-knowing that this man would be elevated to Pope, inspired this part prior to his becoming Pope. Then, again, it is possible that the Holy Spirit prevented this man from issuing this document as an Encyclical because of the error in this part.

But, however Catholics try to make sense of this Exhortation, from a non-Catholic point of view, it’s as though he has just decreed that Jupiter has no moons.


71 posted on 11/28/2013 12:07:01 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Gumdrop

“After Rush’s Tuesday ‘rant’ about the story, he said that he heard that the translation was not accurate. It will remain to be seen whether or not the original English translation is actually the true interpretation of Pope Francis’s words.”


Conservative Catholics say that automatically, and that is probably what Rush is hearing. I’ve seen no evidence that Francis did not say these words. I have seen evidence, however, of Catholics twisting or avoiding his words as much as possible.

Imagine if you were in a religion where the views of the main guy could literally make or break your faith. That’s the greatest weakness of Catholicism, really, their dependence on one guy for their faith and morals.


80 posted on 11/28/2013 1:20:42 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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