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If Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin don’t like the pope, they won’t care much for Jesus (He's serious)
The Washington Post's On Faith ^ | November 28, 2013 | Reza Aslan

Posted on 11/28/2013 8:58:12 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: ex-snook

Populist Poppycock.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Thank you God, for the mountain of blessings that just keep coming. In Jesus’ name I pray, Amen.


41 posted on 11/28/2013 9:49:59 AM PST by Check6 (United States of Moronia: A nation of morons ruled by a gang of communist thugs.)
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To: Gumdrop
First the liberals in the news media want to characterize Pope Francis as ‘on their side’, that is liberal; and second Pope Francis will quickly learn that he has to be more careful with how the press will manipulate his words.

The Catholic church has a history of putting out various messages, trying to appeal to every slant. When one message gets a complaint, they are quick to say that wasn't the Pope's actual words. Or, it's a translation problem. Hogwash.

42 posted on 11/28/2013 10:07:55 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thinking themselves smart they become fools, where did I hear that?


43 posted on 11/28/2013 10:10:57 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Salvation
You keep posting this poppycock on numerous threads. As I said on the other thread.....

You keep posting this and telling everyone that the "interpretation" from a known conservative site, Breitbart, is incorrect and leftist. However, you want us to believe that the translation from your site, Ignatius Insight, run by a bunch of known leftists , the Jesuits, is correct and conservative.

The Jesuits embrace Obama and every other leftist/socialist principle and you want us, the conservatives on FR, to ignore the truth and believe them? I don't think so!

44 posted on 11/28/2013 10:11:47 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin don’t like the pope, they won’t care much for Jesus

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If one likes the Bible, one won’t care much for what the Pope says


45 posted on 11/28/2013 10:11:51 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In response to Pope Francis’ first Apostolic Exhortation, in which the pontiff denounced “trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world,” these two paragons of the far right – both of whom regularly invoke the teachings of Jesus to bolster their own political views – have suddenly turned their backs on the man whose actual job description is to speak for Jesus.

Sarah Palin complained that Pope Francis sounded “kind of liberal” in his statements decrying the growing global income equality between the rich and the poor (she has since apologized). Rush Limbaugh went one step further. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,” he harrumphed into his giant microphone. Limbaugh, in his trademarked conspiratorial style, speculated that the pope’s tirade against “widespread corruption and self-serving tax evasion” must have been forced upon him by somebody else. “Somebody has either written this for [the pope] or gotten to him,” he said.

Limbaugh is right. Somebody did get to Pope Francis. It was Jesus....

Ping for later.

46 posted on 11/28/2013 10:12:29 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jesus didn't espouse any position on government confiscation of wealth and redistribution. And he would surely not have approved of Benedict's arrogant preaching on the subject. “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.

If Benedict wants to sell of the Vatican's $2.9 billion is securities, or turn the Sistine Chapel into a homeless shelter he is free to do so. Otherwise he should shut up and stop telling us what he won't do.

47 posted on 11/28/2013 10:17:55 AM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know of no place in the world where “survival of the fittest” and “unbridled capitalism” hold sway, nor do I know of any economic system free of self-serving and corruption. The Pope speaks of sin and God’s will, not specific political systems or socioeconomic principles. The moslem sociologist lacks the contextual awareness to grasp the point of it all, but Rush was needlessly upset.


48 posted on 11/28/2013 10:21:35 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“whose actual job description is to speak for Jesus.”

We all serve Jesus, but we do NOT speak for Him, the Holy Spirit does.

I confess to no man, only to my Savior. I am a sinner, just as Paul was. Also, as those whom Jesus touched while here on earth.

Jesus did not bow the leaders. Nor do I.


49 posted on 11/28/2013 10:25:27 AM PST by wizr (We are "one Nation, under God " or "one nation, trod under ". Keep the Faith.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Aslan

Aslan's family came to the United States from Tehran in 1979, fleeing the Iranian Revolution. He grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area. At the age of 15 he converted to evangelical Christianity. He converted back to Islam the summer before attending Harvard. In the early 1990s, Aslan taught courses at De La Salle High School in Concord, California.

Aslan holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in religions from Santa Clara University, a Master of Theological Studies degree from Harvard Divinity School, and a Master of Fine Arts degree from the University of Iowa's Writers' Workshop, where he was named the Truman Capote Fellow in Fiction. Aslan also received a Doctor of Philosophy in Sociology, focusing in the history of religion, from the University of California, Santa Barbara. His dissertation was titled "Global Jihadism as a Transnational Social Movement: A Theoretical Framework".

In August 2000, while serving as the Truman Capote Fellow at the Iowa Writers' Workshop, Aslan was named Visiting Professor of Islamic Studies at the University of Iowa, becoming the first full-time professor of Islam in the history of the state.

Aslan was the 2012–13 Wallerstein Distinguished Visiting Professor at the Drew University Center on Religion, Culture & Conflict.

Aslan lives in Hollywood, California.

50 posted on 11/28/2013 10:26:43 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it’s in”The Washington Compost”,I MUST DisAgree!If Jesus Christ isn’t a CHAMPION of”INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES”,then who(besides The Founders)Is??????????????????????????


51 posted on 11/28/2013 10:27:00 AM PST by bandleader
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

As demonstrated on September 11, 1857 at Mountain Meadows, Utah?


Pales next to the Inquisition.....what was that, 6 or 9 million people?


52 posted on 11/28/2013 10:27:24 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rectal Azzman was introduced to me by a friend. Apparently he’s real keen on disproving Biblical history.

Thing is, his methodology isn’t so much in error as it is very concsiously contrived.

He is a blasphemer, a self Idolater and all around tool....well, jacks.

I forget what it was that ticked me off but, I watched some interview of him with a friend.

1st thought: Fag

2nd thought deciever.

Now, I forget the five points this intellectual narcissist was promulgating but, after my friend asked me thoughts I asked if they would be open to me refuting his so”special” brand of bullshit.

I was surprised when she said yes.

In 10 minutes I proved he was a fraud who is out to indermine Christianity.

She wanted to know why my view is more valid than this FK tard with pedigree on paper.

I told her I had God as my witness, no need to disprove his presence at all point of time and tier are just too many contemporary writers over the last 2,000 years to bolster the evidence of truth.

No one should give this Moslem his due or celebrate his contrivances.

He is a deceiver.


53 posted on 11/28/2013 10:28:08 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: ex-snook
The Wall Street GOP is happy if the rich get richer and the poor have the Gospel preached to them.

Nice quote. Why don't you give attribution.

The Pope would like an economic system that would have fewer poor.

Name one. And fewer than whom.

54 posted on 11/28/2013 10:56:44 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: JAKraig
Actually that is not his job at all.

His job is to be Bishop of Rome.

55 posted on 11/28/2013 10:59:34 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ex-snook

How odd, that the mystical Wall Street GOP so richly supports liberal politicians of a socialistic bent.

An economic system that encourages conversion of nature’s store of material resources into useful goods and services through private enterprise, thereby creating real wealth and providing remunerative employment for those willing and able to work, would be a good thing.


56 posted on 11/28/2013 10:59:52 AM PST by Elsiejay
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To: Salvation
Martin Luther was a Catholic who left the Catholic Church

He reluctantly left the Catholic Church. He didn't want to. He found where the Catholic Church strayed by Biblical testimony.

57 posted on 11/28/2013 11:00:32 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Gumdrop
It will remain to be seen whether or not the original English translation is actually the true interpretation of Pope Francis’s words.

I'm not big on this pope. Unnecessary double-speak to cover his South American "Liberation Theology" indoctrination and leanings.

The LSM reporting of his words is probably more accurate of the pope's intentions than the views of those that are hoping that it really is possible "lost in translation" errors.

To whit, the lack of strong leadership from the Vatican on challenging and correcting the "erroneous" stories of the pope's statements.

JMO, YMMV

58 posted on 11/28/2013 11:02:39 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never heard of Reza Aslan, but based upon this piece it’s no surprise he would write for the Wash. Compost.

Maybe Reza can refer to the scriptural basis for his contention that the Pope was quoting Jesus on the need to have Marxist government action to help the poor. All this while I thought the scriptures taught that we have an individual responsibility to do this, not delegate it to socialist government politicians and bureaucrats.


59 posted on 11/28/2013 11:05:15 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The liberals are quite amusing concerning statements from the Pope or any Catholic bishop. If the Pope says something they disagree with the typical leftist response if “well oh yeah well they’re all a bunch of child molesters” but then if the Pope or bishop says something they agree with then they say its his actual job to “speak for Jesus”.


60 posted on 11/28/2013 11:10:59 AM PST by fkabuckeyesrule
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