Posted on 11/27/2013 5:57:51 AM PST by Gamecock
Oh my. Looks like Evangelicals take their faith seriously per that study. A good witness for sure.
Same for their voting patterns, but that all keeps getting dismissed by those who don’t want to hear.
I think they worry it might lead to dancing.
LOL And heaven forbid they dance naked like Daniel did.
Oops, that was David not Daniel. My bad.
I haven't read the entire article but I would also suggest that Christians at secular universities have similar views as those at evangelical universities. Hmmmmmmm....I wonder why??? ;O)
These are Catholic KIDS we’re talking about, when they first go away to college. I was an idiot too. The heartache the hookup culture caused is what brought me back to the Church.
Everyone already knows that. Take it up with the Cardinal Newman Society, www.cardinalnewmansociety.org.
Should those schools be disciplined? In some cases, heck yes. I don't get to make that call, though. The only call I can make is where to send my kid and my money. So far, one kid went to Steubenville and the other is at University of Dallas. Both are on the CNS recommended colleges list.
I doubt there's very much "getting around the rules" at Christendom. Too small, and too serious about the faith. A friend sent his daughter there; from his description, it sounds like where the Waltons would send their kids, if they were Catholic.
I know the chaplain at Vanderbilt personally; he's doing great things. Illinois and Texas A&M have a very good reputation. They even have a "Catholic dorm" (not university housing, obviously) at Illinois so kids can escape the evil and debauchery of a regular dorm.
And how does anecdotal evidence about one school verify whether the article and author were honest?
Oh, I get it. If it makes the RCC look bad, it's not honest.
Oh, I agree! When I went down there to visit, I got the distinct impression that the number of rule breakers was vanishingly small. (My son will fit right in; he’s a pretty straight arrow.) Still, I was and am hesitant to declare that there is NO rule-breaking.
Please pray for my son. We really are hoping his application is accepted.
Regards and Happy Thanksgiving!
Oh, I get it. If it makes the RCC look bad, it's not honest.
One thing's for sure. If it makes the RCC look bad, we can depend on the FR anti-Catholic contingent to post it within minutes.
It's a good thing CATHOLICS never do that about Protestantism.
Must be great to be perfect enough to cast the first stone.
Maybe all of us should take a break over the Christmas season from that kind of behavior, which isn't particularly Christian, IMO.
Are there a LOT of MORMON universities?
Or just one: BYU?
"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982
"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65
"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196
"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.
"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965
"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155
"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.
I'd say so!!
During the late 1960s and early 1970s, the university was known internationally for its student activism in opposition to US involvement in the Vietnam war, due mainly to the events of May 4, 1970. -- WIKI
Even universities like SU have *learning communities* in their dorms that allow for students to avoid a lot of exposure to the typical life of debauchery that most students live.
It's the student's choice, when it gets down to it. The kid raised knowing who he is, what he believes, and WHY he believes it, is far less likely to get sucked in to the hook up, party culture where ever he goes.
Not to mention, that even at SU, there are a large number of Christian and Catholic campus religious groups which are very active and working together. They, along with Fellowship of Christian Athletes, are having quite an impact on the campus. There's a huge outreach going on there now.
Some of SU's latest big name athletes are quite serious about their faith and it's widely known.
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