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Change of faith: Why young Brits turn from Christianity to Islam
The Final Call ^ | Sep 27, 2013 | RT.com

Posted on 09/28/2013 4:32:01 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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To: Mrs. Don-o; agere_contra
To me this is correct. When I first moved to the UK in early 2000s, I mistakenly went to an Anglican Church for mass a couple of weeks before the penny dropped

I was puzzled that the average age looked about 65 -- and I was living in Brighton, a young person's place

I then went to the Catholic Church (St. Mary Magdalen's) and it was packed, with young people -- the priest was an ex-Anglican (wonderful man). And that was true for the other Catholic Church in Kemp's town. And true for CCs in other parts of England and Scotland that I went to.

But most of those attending were either not-English or part-English. the part-Irish were the largest components but there were many Poles, Indians, spaniards etc.

The English-English I met were sadly ignorant of their religion -- they only went for weddings and funerals.

61 posted on 09/30/2013 4:32:12 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: vpintheak; Mrs. Don-o

vpin —> that’s in the Anglophone world. Come to Poland and you’ll hear strident songs of old!


62 posted on 09/30/2013 4:33:00 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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“The passivity that Christianity promotes is perceived as alien and disconnected to Black youths growing up in often violent and challenging urban environments in Britain today,” the former chairman of Brixton Mosque, Abdul Haqq Baker, wrote in the Guardian. “ ‘Turning the other cheek’ invites potential ridicule and abuse, whereas resilience, strength and self-dignity evokes respect and, in some cases, fear from unwanted attention,” he said.

At some point in his life, Baker, raised as a Roman Catholic like his father, converted to Islam. Turning the other cheek has never been an option since then. The majority of young people he had interviewed converted from Christianity to Islam for similar reasons, he says.

“With my newfound faith, there existed religious guidelines that provided spiritual and behavioral codes of conduct.

According to academics, the total obedience that Islam demands from its followers has made it more appealing to worshippers and converts from other religions. Islam says no to drinking, smoking, gambling, pornography, helping those who truly follow its laws and values become complete and firm in their decisions.

“Islam says NO – this is no and full stop. And people find a sense of direction in it, because their religion of origin has lost that, and not because it never had it in the first instance,” Dr. Sara Silvestri, Senior Lecturer at City University, told RT.

One of the largest complaints made against the Catholic Church is the "rules", yet when it comes to Islam, the "rules" are viewed as reason to join?!

63 posted on 09/30/2013 4:38:46 AM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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I think the appeal of Islam has more in common with the appeal of football hooliganism. It’s a license to abuse others. Yes, it has “strict rules,” but they exist mostly to give the stronger a “justification” to abuse the weaker.

Daniel Greenfield (Sultan Knish) is right: it’s just a gang.


64 posted on 09/30/2013 5:40:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Watching a cycling race on TV yesterday, I think it was in Belgium. They showed a huge mega mosk on the side as the riders went by. Danged thing was a big as Cowboys stadium.


65 posted on 09/30/2013 5:42:50 AM PDT by RetiredArmy ("As in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of Man." Come Quickly LORD Jesus!)
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To: RetiredArmy; Mrs. Don-o
Watching a cycling race on TV yesterday, I think it was in Belgium. They showed a huge mega mosk on the side as the riders went by. Danged thing was a big as Cowboys stadium.

Were there any muslims competing in the race? In fact, I don't recall any cycling races in the middle east, do you? With the spread of islam through western culture, what impact will it have on such sporting events?

66 posted on 09/30/2013 6:24:12 AM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: Tax-chick
I think the appeal of Islam has more in common with the appeal of football hooliganism. It’s a license to abuse others. Yes, it has “strict rules,” but they exist mostly to give the stronger a “justification” to abuse the weaker.

That's an excellent observation. IOW, a sordid reason to convert.

67 posted on 09/30/2013 6:26:40 AM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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No doubt there are some idealists, but when they find that the “NO - FULL STOP” rules are more like “as long as you don’t get caught by someone with more power,” then what? And abuse of women is 100% within the “strict rules.”


68 posted on 09/30/2013 6:40:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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To: Tax-chick
And abuse of women is 100% within the “strict rules.”

That alone may be incentive for some men. What I fail to understand, though, is the naivete shown by western nations towards allowing this infiltration of extremists, under the guise of religious rights. From construction of a mosque near the site of the twin towers to the nuns turning over a catholic school ... yet they have no qualms about berating christians.

69 posted on 09/30/2013 6:45:39 AM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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A lot of Christianity right now comes across as very girly. I used to wonder how the dignified, grown-up men in our nondenom congregation could STAND to worship to the banal, happy-clappy, soft rock music.

Many of the churches have that same soft-masculine, feel-good, approach that we see in society at large. Whatever happened to Manly Men? Did Jesus really condemn that? No, it’s Feminism, insinuating its threads. Whatever happened to the Church Militant here on Earth? ‘Oh, that’s too mean. God is love.’ Whatever happened to the stalwart hymns - Onward Christian Soldiers, Faith of Our Fathers? Why aren’t the Crusades taught as the Crusaders saw them?

Well, God is love alright, but He is also fierce, and until Christianity is again taught in its fullness, it will not attract those who only hear ‘turn the other cheek.’


70 posted on 09/30/2013 7:04:01 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: NYer

No. I don’t know of any muslins in the pro cycling teams. I am sure there probably is one. The Pro Cycling Tour does go to the Middle East very early in the spring, while it is still very cold in Europe and have races in Qatar, UAE, etc. They come back to Europe in about late March and April and start what they call the Spring Classics, which are ridden in cold, wet, sometimes snow, lots of times rain. But the early season starts with the Tour Down Under and then goes to the middle east. As for what the muzzie impact on the races will be, I think they, the muzzies as they take over, will allow the races to continue. Since they sponsor and bring the big teams and big name riders down to the middle east each spring, I would assume they like cycling and would allow it to continue in some form. I basically like cycling because at my age (over 60 okay!!), it is something I can still do with less pain than other sports. I have had five surgeries in the past six years, so rehabbing on the bike is helpful and better than say running. You can choose an easier gear to peddle and ride fairly smooth roads with no hills. We do have some nice hills here in east Alabama and North Georgia Mountains are nice to ride in.


71 posted on 09/30/2013 7:23:07 AM PDT by RetiredArmy ("As in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of Man." Come Quickly LORD Jesus!)
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To: Cronos

Well there are some places around, mostly small churches with conservative tradition who do place reverence about feelings. You just have to look hard for it!


72 posted on 09/30/2013 8:31:50 AM PDT by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I really don’t know I hearing there small evangical Christian churches open up in the UK all the time

Thanks to TBN and Daystar


73 posted on 09/30/2013 9:56:04 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hmm let’s see. Inundate the country with unbridled immigration, browbeat whites, Christianity and Western Civilization. Why would there possibly any concern over defecting Christians?


74 posted on 09/30/2013 10:02:33 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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