Skip to comments.Vatican Official: Pelosi Shouldn’t Receive Communion
Posted on 09/26/2013 10:08:23 AM PDT by Biggirl
Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke said that Nancy Pelosi should be denied communion because her support of abortion is in conflict of her Catholic faith. He took particular issue with the minority leaders refusal to comment on abortionist and murderer Kermit Gosnell because she said as a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground for her.
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Heck, the ignorant sl*t shouldn’t even receive oxygen.
Does he have the power to enforce his ruling?
IOW ... just words
Deny her communion, but recommend exorcism.
“Should” or “Must?”
If he is the former Archbishop of St. Louis, Cardinal Burke, who has a very major Vatican post now, he could send a directive to the bishops in the USA telling them to excommunicate Rep. Pelosi. Plus besides he does have the “ear” of Pope Francis.
A biblical church would impose severe sanctions against any priest or Parrish which violates this decision, including excommunication.
But you’re right, it’s just a strongly worded suggestion at this point.
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Regrettably, he does not have jurisdiction.
On a somewhat related topic, I frequently see people claim that Adolph Hitler was a Catholic and that the Church never excommunicated him because they felt nothing he did was against Catholicism. I know Hitler was a baptized Catholic, and I assume that he was not a practicing Catholic as an adult. (Does anyone know otherwise?) As for the excommunication issue, my impression is that the Church normally does not formally excommunicate someone unless they are a member of the clergy teaching false doctrine or behaving in a scandalous manner. Excommunication of a lay person would be rare, and then only if the person was claiming to be an orthodox Catholic. Most people who leave the Church do so quietly and the Church never bothers with the formality of excommunication. Does anyone have any information on this topic?
I thought that Cardinal Burke was the head of Vatican version of the judicial side, in other words, its version of a “CJ” or chief justice?
Interesting. Do you know who does, or is it not down anymore?
If he were to do that could the Democrats claim that the church was interjecting itself into politics by punishing Pelosi and then go after their tax exempt status?
OMG(oodness). Imagine the amount of Holy Water that would take...
All indications are Nancy Pelosi could not care less. She’s subject to no authority other than her own imagined powers.
She also shouldn’t recieve another dime of taxpayer money.
Thing is, the Dems would have NO SAY in what would be considered an internal Church issue.
Burke's been saying this for years. Let me know when something actually happens.
....Yet Pope Francis just excommunicated a priest down under.
If the Roman Catholic Church wanted Pelosi to be denied communion, they have the means to bring about that result.
They could say that he was using church law to punish a Democrat because she supported something that was legal under civil law. It is not something I would put past them. Democrats will tear down anyting to get even.
Give it time.
.....Just like if a bear “passes wind” in a forest. It will stink, but it will all die down after a while.
Just make sure there is a large herd of pigs nearby.
She also goes on national tlevisioin shows and insists she is an orthodox Catholic who aboies by Church teaching.
Is this the same report as the article references because in this report it looks like Burke and I are in agreement ?
Nancy Pelosi banned from Catholic communion
September 26, 2013
Conservative Catholics -- both politically and religiously -- can now rejoice: due to her House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) longstanding support for abortion, she must be denied Communion under the law of the Catholic Church, said Chief Justice Cardinal Raymond Burke, head of the highest court at the Vatican.
Burke referenced Canon 915, a part of Canon law which states those Catholics who obstinately persevere in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.
As Cardinal Burke noted, [Pelosi] is a person who obstinately, after repeated admonitions, persists in a grave sin--cooperating with the crime of procured abortion--and still professes to be a devout Catholic.
This comes after a June press conference where Pelosi was asked if there was a difference between abortion at 26 weeks, and the house of horrors that was the Philadelphia abortion clinic of Dr. Kermit Gosnell.
Pelosi's response: As a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this. I dont think it should have anything to do with politics, and thats where youre taking it and Im not going there.
Pelosi also has a long history of supporting abortion and and has a 100% rating by NARAL Pro-Choice America. And it probably also doesn't help that she was involved in the creation of Obamacare, and the NHS mandate compelling all religions to pay for contraception, abortions, and sterilization methods, whether the religion allows them or not.
Cardinal Burke said, This is a prime example of what Blessed John Paul II referred to as the situation of Catholics who have divorced their faith from their public life and therefore are not serving their brothers and sisters in the way that they must--in safeguarding and promoting the life of the innocent and defenseless unborn, in safeguarding and promoting the integrity of marriage and the family."
The cardinal continued: To say that these are simply questions of Catholic faith which have no part in politics is just false and wrong. I fear for Congresswoman Pelosi if she does not come to understand how gravely in error she is.
Hitler had been baptized, as had Josef Stalin. That didn’t keep them from turning into atheistic monsters of mass murder. They both ruled in the name of human perfectibility devoid of divine influence.
Those who point up Hitler’s Catholic origins are usually more interested in attacking the Catholic Church.
I’m not sure about the legal position here.
The person who would theoretically have to excommunicate her would be her bishop. The problem is that she’s sort of a hot potato.
She claims she’s under Cdl. Archbishop Wuerl, the famous pro-abortion, pro-gay bishop of DC. But she lives in San Francisco for electoral purposes, so her bishop would be Cordileone, who is definitely anti-abortion, anti-gay norming, and anti-everything-Nancy-bloviates-about.
I hope either that Cordileone will get empowered and do what he should do, or that the Vatican will simply override Wuerl (as they did with the bishop in Australia) and slap her with an excommunication. It might make her think, but if it doesn’t, obviously the warm and fuzzy non-confrontational approach isn’t working either. So maybe she’s just on her way to “the other place.”
The only way that could change is when and if, Cardinal Wuerl makes the decision to hand his paper in to retire. The next archbishop could very well be very much conservative.
I think you’re right.
Not what Burke said.