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Pope: “Evil One is smart, dupes us into thinking human justice can save us and the world.”
Catholic World Report ^ | September 15, 2013 | Catherine Harmon

Posted on 09/16/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 09/16/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 09/16/2013 11:40:41 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

The very first deception is still alive and well -

“you will be as gods, knowing good and evil”


3 posted on 09/16/2013 11:41:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NYer; GeronL

Secular humanist godless atheist Communists call it “Just Us” for a reason.

They believe they can construct a Socialist Utopian Paradise. If just all of the deniers and non-believers of Marxism could be put into the ground.


4 posted on 09/16/2013 11:46:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: NYer
If we live according to the law of ‘an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth’, we cannot come out of the spiral of evil.

That is an ignorant (I will give him the benefit of the doubt and won't accuse him of being disingenuous) understanding of ‘an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth’. That law was intended to circumscribe punishment, but he is presenting it as an encouragement of revenge.

5 posted on 09/16/2013 11:51:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: NYer

There are, at minimum, at least two audiences for the Holy Father’s remarks. The good and the evil. I don’t mean to project here, but something was missing for me.

While there is peace and comfort in such truth, I can not stop fighting, nor use the Pope’s remarks either, as reason to become frozen in place, impotent, or paralyzed to engage.

It is not a sin to possess an informed conscience, which equips us to judge good and evil, to protest socialism and communism, and to battle against it on the field as well as on the knees.

There is something missing, here, for the good warrior? Say something to him, please.


6 posted on 09/16/2013 12:01:59 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: NYer

For me, there is “the kindness and the sternness of God”. These work together somehow, but with the goal of ending up in His kindness. I agree with Francis here. There is no human effort of “right” that can save. Love in Christ is the answer, and most of the world remains blind to that. If we’ve had our eyes opened to truth, even a wee bit, the increase of wickedness threatens to turn our love cold. Abiding in Him is the answer!

“The LORD is a strong tower; the righteous run to it and are safe.”


7 posted on 09/16/2013 12:02:34 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: NYer

The Evil One dupes people into believing that stealing from Peter to pay Paul creates “Social Justice”.


8 posted on 09/16/2013 12:06:05 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: NYer

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9 posted on 09/16/2013 12:42:47 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: MrB
The very first deception is still alive and well -

Immediately followed by the second one .... The Devil does not exist.

10 posted on 09/16/2013 1:24:51 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Jeff, you are quite right in saying that the intent of "an eye for an eye" was to limit punishment to exact retribution (not the famous Mafia axiom: "You put one of our guys in the hospital, we'll put one of yours in the morgue.")

But Christ Himself superseded the Mosaic "an eye for an eye" in the fifth of the Six Antitheses(in Matthew 5). I think Pope Francis is pointing out the superiority of the Christian perspective to the Mosaic.

11 posted on 09/16/2013 1:30:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Pray for the *** SOB. It's the only way to help him, or you, become a bit worthier as a human being)
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To: NYer

The Evil One also makes men think their disbelief in the Creator will not keep them from living eternally. :(


12 posted on 09/16/2013 1:33:23 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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**The Evil One also makes men think their disbelief in the Creator will not keep them from living eternally. :(**

And thus they rationalize that it’s OK if I don’t go to Church; it’s OK if I don’t tithe.


13 posted on 09/16/2013 2:08:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RitaOK

There will likely be many more good people in Hell as evil people.


14 posted on 09/16/2013 2:49:04 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Salvation

Uh, because it IS OK if they don’t go to a ‘CHURCH’, or if they don’t ‘tithe’. If they are saved, the ARE the Church, and if they read Romans through Philemon, they will find out that in this age of grace, we no longer perform things that are for the Jews. Which titheing is, of course.


15 posted on 09/16/2013 2:59:38 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
One of my pet peeves is the misuse of scripture to preempt opposition to evil. People twist "An eye for an eye" to prevent fitting punishment for crimes, "Judge not" to prevent discernment of right and wrong, "Thou shalt not kill" prevents self-defense or temporal justice, etc.

This is a common tactic of the Left and those who espouse an effeminate faith. "Sure, he raped and murdered that little girl, but who are we to judge? We must forgive him and he must be allowed to live."

People who think this way say "God is love" but they mean "Love is God."

16 posted on 09/16/2013 3:28:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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Most of Leviticus is about making the punishment fit the crime.


17 posted on 09/16/2013 3:31:11 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: smvoice

And the Evil One will convince people that they don’t even have to go to church, don’t have to obey the Ten Commandments, don’t have to pray, etc. etc.

Supporting your church is a duty.

I feel sorry for those who think they don’t need a church and can do it all on their own — without God!


18 posted on 09/16/2013 3:32:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

and I feel sorry for those who think they are impressing God with their titheing and “church” going. They think they can do it all on their own-without God!


19 posted on 09/16/2013 3:42:09 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Salvation

One more: “Supporting your Church is a duty”. If that “church” isn’t giving you the gospel of your salvation, and the finished work of Christ as your only hope for reconciliation with God, then it is your duty to FLEE that church, not support it. Yes, even though it’s pretty and smells good.


20 posted on 09/16/2013 3:45:20 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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