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Pope: “Evil One is smart, dupes us into thinking human justice can save us and the world.”
Catholic World Report ^ | September 15, 2013 | Catherine Harmon

Posted on 09/16/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by NYer

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Pope Francis: “The Evil One is smart. He dupes us into thinking that human justice can save us and save the world.”

“On the contrary, mercy is the true force that can save man and the world from the ‘cancer’ of sin, of moral and spiritual evil. Only love fills the emptiness, the negative chasms that evil opens in hearts and history.”

During his Sunday Angelus address, Pope Francis focused on the three parables in today’s Gospel—the lost sheep, the lost coin, and the prodigal son—and on the centrality of mercy to the Christian life. “If, in our hearts, there is no mercy, no joy of forgiveness, we are not in communion with God, even if we observe all his precepts because it is love that saves, not only the practice of his precepts,” the Holy Father said.


If we live according to the law of ‘an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth’, we cannot come out of the spiral of evil. The Evil One is smart. He dupes us into thinking that human justice can save us and save the world. In fact, only God’s justice can save us! And God’s justice revealed itself on the Cross. …

All three parables speak of God’s joy. God is joyful! That is something interesting. What is God’s joy? Forgiveness. God’s joy is forgiveness! It is the joy of the shepherd who finds his sheep; the joy of the woman who finds her coin; it is the joy of the father who welcomes home a son who was lost, who was as good as dead, but is alive again, back home. This is the whole Gospel. This is the whole of Christianity!

Yet, there is nothing sentimental about it, nor a sense of ‘doing good’! On the contrary, mercy is the true force that can save man and the world from the ‘cancer’ of sin, of moral and spiritual evil. Only love fills the emptiness, the negative chasms that evil opens in hearts and history. Only love can do this and this is God’s joy.

Jesus is all mercy, all love. He is God made ​​man. Everyone here is the lost sheep, the lost coin, and each of us is the son who has wasted his freedom following false idols, the illusions of happiness, and lost everything. He is a patient father. He respects our freedom, but remains loyal. And when we return to Him, he welcomes us as children, into his house, because he never stops, not even for a moment, to wait for us, with love. And his heart celebrates every child who comes back. He celebrates because it is joy. He celebrates when one of us sinners comes back.

What is the danger? To think that we are just; that we can judge others; that we can judge God because we think he should punish sinners; condemn them to death, instead of forgiving them. That is when we risk remaining outside of our Father’s house! Like the older brother in the parable, who instead of being happy because his brother was back, got angry with his father who welcomes him and celebrates. …

Only God’s justice can save us! And God’s justice revealed itself on the Cross. The Cross is God’s judgment on all of us and on this world. But how does God judge us? By giving his life for us. Behold the supreme act of justice that defeated once and for all the Prince of this world. This supreme act of justice is also one of mercy. Jesus called us all to follow this path. “Be merciful,” he said, “just as [. . .] your Father is merciful” (Lk, 6:36).

Now I ask you one thing. Let each one of you think about a person with whom you do not get along, with whom you are angry. In silence, think about this person, pray for this person and let yourself become merciful towards this person.


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1 posted on 09/16/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 09/16/2013 11:40:41 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

The very first deception is still alive and well -

“you will be as gods, knowing good and evil”


3 posted on 09/16/2013 11:41:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NYer; GeronL

Secular humanist godless atheist Communists call it “Just Us” for a reason.

They believe they can construct a Socialist Utopian Paradise. If just all of the deniers and non-believers of Marxism could be put into the ground.


4 posted on 09/16/2013 11:46:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: NYer
If we live according to the law of ‘an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth’, we cannot come out of the spiral of evil.

That is an ignorant (I will give him the benefit of the doubt and won't accuse him of being disingenuous) understanding of ‘an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth’. That law was intended to circumscribe punishment, but he is presenting it as an encouragement of revenge.

5 posted on 09/16/2013 11:51:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: NYer

There are, at minimum, at least two audiences for the Holy Father’s remarks. The good and the evil. I don’t mean to project here, but something was missing for me.

While there is peace and comfort in such truth, I can not stop fighting, nor use the Pope’s remarks either, as reason to become frozen in place, impotent, or paralyzed to engage.

It is not a sin to possess an informed conscience, which equips us to judge good and evil, to protest socialism and communism, and to battle against it on the field as well as on the knees.

There is something missing, here, for the good warrior? Say something to him, please.


6 posted on 09/16/2013 12:01:59 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: NYer

For me, there is “the kindness and the sternness of God”. These work together somehow, but with the goal of ending up in His kindness. I agree with Francis here. There is no human effort of “right” that can save. Love in Christ is the answer, and most of the world remains blind to that. If we’ve had our eyes opened to truth, even a wee bit, the increase of wickedness threatens to turn our love cold. Abiding in Him is the answer!

“The LORD is a strong tower; the righteous run to it and are safe.”


7 posted on 09/16/2013 12:02:34 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: NYer

The Evil One dupes people into believing that stealing from Peter to pay Paul creates “Social Justice”.


8 posted on 09/16/2013 12:06:05 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: NYer

bookmark


9 posted on 09/16/2013 12:42:47 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: MrB
The very first deception is still alive and well -

Immediately followed by the second one .... The Devil does not exist.

10 posted on 09/16/2013 1:24:51 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Jeff, you are quite right in saying that the intent of "an eye for an eye" was to limit punishment to exact retribution (not the famous Mafia axiom: "You put one of our guys in the hospital, we'll put one of yours in the morgue.")

But Christ Himself superseded the Mosaic "an eye for an eye" in the fifth of the Six Antitheses(in Matthew 5). I think Pope Francis is pointing out the superiority of the Christian perspective to the Mosaic.

11 posted on 09/16/2013 1:30:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Pray for the *** SOB. It's the only way to help him, or you, become a bit worthier as a human being)
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To: NYer

The Evil One also makes men think their disbelief in the Creator will not keep them from living eternally. :(


12 posted on 09/16/2013 1:33:23 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

**The Evil One also makes men think their disbelief in the Creator will not keep them from living eternally. :(**

And thus they rationalize that it’s OK if I don’t go to Church; it’s OK if I don’t tithe.


13 posted on 09/16/2013 2:08:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RitaOK

There will likely be many more good people in Hell as evil people.


14 posted on 09/16/2013 2:49:04 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Salvation

Uh, because it IS OK if they don’t go to a ‘CHURCH’, or if they don’t ‘tithe’. If they are saved, the ARE the Church, and if they read Romans through Philemon, they will find out that in this age of grace, we no longer perform things that are for the Jews. Which titheing is, of course.


15 posted on 09/16/2013 2:59:38 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
One of my pet peeves is the misuse of scripture to preempt opposition to evil. People twist "An eye for an eye" to prevent fitting punishment for crimes, "Judge not" to prevent discernment of right and wrong, "Thou shalt not kill" prevents self-defense or temporal justice, etc.

This is a common tactic of the Left and those who espouse an effeminate faith. "Sure, he raped and murdered that little girl, but who are we to judge? We must forgive him and he must be allowed to live."

People who think this way say "God is love" but they mean "Love is God."

16 posted on 09/16/2013 3:28:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Most of Leviticus is about making the punishment fit the crime.


17 posted on 09/16/2013 3:31:11 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: smvoice

And the Evil One will convince people that they don’t even have to go to church, don’t have to obey the Ten Commandments, don’t have to pray, etc. etc.

Supporting your church is a duty.

I feel sorry for those who think they don’t need a church and can do it all on their own — without God!


18 posted on 09/16/2013 3:32:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

and I feel sorry for those who think they are impressing God with their titheing and “church” going. They think they can do it all on their own-without God!


19 posted on 09/16/2013 3:42:09 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Salvation

One more: “Supporting your Church is a duty”. If that “church” isn’t giving you the gospel of your salvation, and the finished work of Christ as your only hope for reconciliation with God, then it is your duty to FLEE that church, not support it. Yes, even though it’s pretty and smells good.


20 posted on 09/16/2013 3:45:20 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: smvoice; Salvation

“...and if they read Romans through Philemon”


Salvation in another thread renounced Paul and all his epistles, saying he didn’t meet Jesus in person. So, she won’t “read Romans through Philemon” any time soon.


21 posted on 09/16/2013 5:24:06 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Salvation

Something tells me God won’t be asking her about her knowledge of saints and their recipes of the day. He WILL be asking her of Paul’s message in this age of grace (Romans 2:16). Especially since this is the time she is living. To each his own, I guess. Perhaps she can impress Him with the St. Lucia Lasagne, but I’m thinking no...:)


22 posted on 09/16/2013 5:30:06 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"One of my pet peeves is the misuse of scripture to preempt opposition to evil. People twist "An eye for an eye" to prevent fitting punishment for crimes, "Judge not" to prevent discernment of right and wrong, "Thou shalt not kill" prevents self-defense or temporal justice, etc."

I completely agree with you on that. A false, disordered compassion --- which ends up further corrupting the guilty while being endlessly cruel to the innocent --- is the moral affliction of our age.

23 posted on 09/16/2013 5:32:42 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("See something, say something.")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Religion Moderator

Why are you bringing things from one thread to another — as if gossiping?

I thought it was against the Religion Moderator’s rules. Look at his homepage.


24 posted on 09/16/2013 5:48:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: smvoice; Religion Moderator

Why are you bringing things from one thread to another — as if gossiping?

I thought it was against the Religion Moderator’s rules. Look at his homepage.


25 posted on 09/16/2013 5:49:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

WHAT “one thread to another”??? PLEASE, stop being paranoid, Sal. Religion Moderator, I have absolutely NO CLUE as to what Salvation is talking about here. There is NO “gossip” going on. And certainly no “bringing things from one thread to another”. That would entail me actually KNOWING what is on one thread to put it on another. And I can ASSURE both you and Salvation I do NOT have the time, energy, or desire to look backwards. Cripes, give me a break here...


26 posted on 09/16/2013 5:52:20 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: smvoice

http://www.freerepublic.com/~religionmoderator/


27 posted on 09/16/2013 5:56:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Religion Moderator

Post 26 is for you, also. In my shock, I forgot to include your name.


28 posted on 09/16/2013 5:56:50 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Salvation

Oh, just stop it, Salvation. You cannot handle your unhappiness with me for yourself? You MUST run to the RM with your uncomfortable and uneasy attitude toward me and my posts? How about you just tell me? You know the public posts position. Hang around in the caucus if you don’t want to be virtually offended. I cannot help you overcome shadow offenses. They exist only in your mind. Now, try to relax and have a nice evening. Your lips are gonna get stuck in that pursed position if you don’t learn to lighten up.


29 posted on 09/16/2013 6:01:13 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: smvoice; Religion Moderator

From the Religion Moderator’s page linked above:

Linking to Previous Posts on the Religion Forum:

The objective, on the Religion Forum, of not bringing forward disputes from prior threads is to discourage flame wars spreading, in particular the needling or badgering of other posters by bringing up their past remarks, again and again.
However, if you were to say “I recall your saying something else on an earlier thread” and the poster challenged you “Oh yeah, where?” then you would be obligated to link to the previous thread and I would not pull it.

If you want to argue the previous claim, then go back to the earlier thread, ping all the interested parties and say something like “Here you say the sky is green. Why?” The respondent will be obligated then to explain the green comment in context with that particular thread and parties involved in it.

If however you are seeking to “impeach the witness” by showing he waffles back and forth THAT is “making it personal” and I will pull it to avoid a flame war.

And if you are trying to embarrass another Freeper by recalling his inconvenient comments from prior threads, THAT is also “making it personal” and I will pull it to avoid a flame war.

A poster may quote himself from a prior thread. And he may link to articles he has previously posted. That is not “making it personal” - he is merely reasserting his own views. He may link to articles posted by others or other posters’ remarks which are not part of any dispute, e.g. “You hit the nail on the head when you said...”

If however he is linking to an article posted by someone else - and that article was a “caucus” of which he was not a member - then I might pull the post anyway if I think it would have the affect of defeating the caucus label. Besides, he can always quote the source article directly without seemingly trying to work around the caucus protection.


30 posted on 09/16/2013 6:11:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; Religion Moderator

you were pinged, Salvation. That’s what makes it NOT GOSSIP. Keep on. I’m asking the RM if they can update their rules and guidelines by including a paragraph or two on how to deal with fretters and bed-wetters on this forum. You were pinged, deal with it.


31 posted on 09/16/2013 6:18:15 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“One of my pet peeves is the misuse of scripture to preempt opposition to evil. People twist “An eye for an eye” to prevent fitting punishment for crimes, “Judge not” to prevent discernment of right and wrong, “Thou shalt not kill” prevents self-defense or temporal justice, etc.

This is a common tactic of the Left and those who espouse an effeminate faith. “Sure, he raped and murdered that little girl, but who are we to judge? We must forgive him and he must be allowed to live.”

People who think this way say “God is love” but they mean “Love is God.”

Bingo!


32 posted on 09/16/2013 6:28:10 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“One of my pet peeves is the misuse of scripture to preempt opposition to evil. People twist “An eye for an eye” to prevent fitting punishment for crimes, “Judge not” to prevent discernment of right and wrong, “Thou shalt not kill” prevents self-defense or temporal justice, etc.

This is a common tactic of the Left and those who espouse an effeminate faith. “Sure, he raped and murdered that little girl, but who are we to judge? We must forgive him and he must be allowed to live.”

People who think this way say “God is love” but they mean “Love is God.”

Bingo!


33 posted on 09/16/2013 6:28:19 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: smvoice

smvoice, this is not the place. Please behave


34 posted on 09/16/2013 6:30:49 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Thanks.


35 posted on 09/16/2013 6:33:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

welcome


36 posted on 09/16/2013 6:33:57 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk; Salvation

just as soon as you post the same to Salvation. She is the one, after all, who began this ridiculous rant. And please do not tell me to “behave”. Anyone who is falsely accused of something would “behave” in the same manner.


37 posted on 09/16/2013 6:37:48 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: yldstrk; Salvation; smvoice

It’s my fault, since I mentioned Salvation’s recent renouncing of the Apostle Paul, since someone recommended she read his epistles. I didn’t think it would cause such a hubbub.


38 posted on 09/16/2013 6:45:10 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

No, it’s not your fault, GPH. It’s about power and hurt feelings. That’s IT. It seems to me that once a person makes a statement on an open forum, he owns it. And it’s his to defend. Running and tattling to the RM when a person gets his rosary in a bunch is quite a way of standing strong in the faith. I am as willing as the next person to forget it and move on, but “sometimes being a *!_@U is all you’ve got” (Kathy Bates, Dolores Claiborne), not me, Salvation, “cursing again”, a QUOTE.


39 posted on 09/16/2013 6:54:01 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Salvation

I’m going to leave this post for now. It’s only going to deteriorate further from here. Salvation, DO NOT post to me again. Your comments, suggestions, recipes, or “walking in the beatitudes” is not welcome. That’s all I will say.


40 posted on 09/16/2013 7:06:41 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: smvoice

http://www.freerepublic.com/~religionmoderator/


41 posted on 09/16/2013 7:07:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

evil one = Barack Obama.


42 posted on 09/16/2013 7:15:11 PM PDT by Palio di Siena (Even the liberal media can't keep lipstick on this pig.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; smvoice; Salvation
Salvation in another thread renounced Paul and all his epistles, saying he didn’t meet Jesus in person.

Do not bring a dispute from a previous thread to a new one. It causes trouble and incites flame wars.

If you wish to pursue the discussion, do it on the previous thread.

43 posted on 09/16/2013 7:33:17 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you!


44 posted on 09/16/2013 7:34:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you!


45 posted on 09/16/2013 7:34:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: smvoice

no, you are wrong

you didn’t do it, but neither did you calmly point out who did

and besides that, you are anti Catholic and it shows

you don’t have to go back very far in your ancestry to find Catholics, so why don’t you give it a rest


46 posted on 09/16/2013 7:46:03 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk; All
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

47 posted on 09/16/2013 7:47:52 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: yldstrk; smvoice

“and besides that, you are anti Catholic and it shows

you don’t have to go back very far in your ancestry to find Catholics, so why don’t you give it a rest”


More than likely he is anti-Catholicism. I don’t think it is charitable of you to start accusing him of hating people. I myself was formerly Catholic, and my father and most of the family still is. I can despise false doctrines without hating the family, and I imagine most people can to.

I take responsibility for getting the thread off track with that comment, so, having said that, please don’t keep attacking people over an issue that is settled.


48 posted on 09/16/2013 7:50:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Religion Moderator

sorry, I just get sick of the anti Catholicism


49 posted on 09/16/2013 8:00:43 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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